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Cash buyers ruining it for everyone

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  • Verix
    Verix Posts: 241 Forumite
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    AdrianC said:
    How somebody is funding a property is irrelevant. It's all about the willingness to pay the price...
    If 250 is the asking price, why the hell is the EA keeping it on the market if there's an offer of 260?!
    The EA isn't. The vendor is.

    Maybe it's as simple as they're hoping for more...?
    So why not adjust the asking price to 260 on the site?
    A cash buyer may have put an offer in on the property but the estate agent could still be waiting for the buyer to provide their proof of funds or their solicitor choice. Possibly the vendor has said they won't take it off the market until any forward booked viewings go ahead or until the buyer has applied for searches. 

    When you're a first-time buyer you can feel at a disadvantage but if you've got your AIP and your actively viewing something will come up and your position of being without a chain will stand you in good stead. 
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  • GDB2222 said:
    AdrianC said:
    How somebody is funding a property is irrelevant. It's all about the willingness to pay the price...
    If 250 is the asking price, why the hell is the EA keeping it on the market if there's an offer of 260?!
    The EA isn't. The vendor is.

    Maybe it's as simple as they're hoping for more...?
    So why not adjust the asking price to 260 on the site?
    It’s not always that simple.  My stupid ex put ours on for £5,000 less than I was going to accept so the poor estate agents had to explain that to everyone viewing.  It Was awkward 
    Yes, as soon as I hear there’s a divorcing couple involved, I lose interest. It’s bound to be grief.
    The first house we were interested in was a divorcing couple and we only found out once we got to 225k and had sent them a letter saying what a lovely family home (desperation after reading advice online). Never felt so awkward in my life...
  • Angela_D_3
    Angela_D_3 Posts: 1,071 Forumite
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    GDB2222 said:
    AdrianC said:
    How somebody is funding a property is irrelevant. It's all about the willingness to pay the price...
    If 250 is the asking price, why the hell is the EA keeping it on the market if there's an offer of 260?!
    The EA isn't. The vendor is.

    Maybe it's as simple as they're hoping for more...?
    So why not adjust the asking price to 260 on the site?
    It’s not always that simple.  My stupid ex put ours on for £5,000 less than I was going to accept so the poor estate agents had to explain that to everyone viewing.  It Was awkward 
    Yes, as soon as I hear there’s a divorcing couple involved, I lose interest. It’s bound to be grief.
    Totally agree with you there 
  • MEM62
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    Cash buyer ruining it for everyone?  Hardly.  In some any cases you will get away with a slightly lower offer as a cash buyer as you are in abetter position to proceed. The reality is that you are being out bid by buyers that are willing to may more for the property than you are.  Nothing more than that.  
  • theartfullodger
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    edited 14 November 2020 at 3:04PM
    It's less the cash buyers, it's the selling process and, basically, capitalism being divorced from morality.
  • AdrianC
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    AdrianC said:
    How somebody is funding a property is irrelevant. It's all about the willingness to pay the price...
    If 250 is the asking price, why the hell is the EA keeping it on the market if there's an offer of 260?!
    The EA isn't. The vendor is.

    Maybe it's as simple as they're hoping for more...?
    So why not adjust the asking price to 260 on the site?
    <shrug> Does it matter?
    You know it's going to go for more than you want to pay. Your offer has been refused, and you don't want to up it.

    The rest is irrelevant.
  • Davesnave
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    edited 14 November 2020 at 3:15PM
    GDB2222 said:
    AdrianC said:
    How somebody is funding a property is irrelevant. It's all about the willingness to pay the price...
    If 250 is the asking price, why the hell is the EA keeping it on the market if there's an offer of 260?!
    The EA isn't. The vendor is.

    Maybe it's as simple as they're hoping for more...?
    So why not adjust the asking price to 260 on the site?
    It’s not always that simple.  My stupid ex put ours on for £5,000 less than I was going to accept so the poor estate agents had to explain that to everyone viewing.  It Was awkward 
    Yes, as soon as I hear there’s a divorcing couple involved, I lose interest. It’s bound to be grief.
    Even if they go to Relate and make up. That was what happened with the first house we tried to buy for the last move. Pulled from the market, and from Rightmove sold data, it stayed with them for another 6 or 7 years.

    Edit: Just remembered, this house was also owned by a divorcing couple, but no one let on for a considerable time. One of the parties was detained at Her Majesty's pleasure, so we wondered why we hadn't seen them. They weren't a lot of bother anyway!
  • o_johnston
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    edited 14 November 2020 at 3:39PM
    MEM62 said:
    Cash buyer ruining it for everyone?  Hardly.  In some any cases you will get away with a slightly lower offer as a cash buyer as you are in abetter position to proceed. The reality is that you are being out bid by buyers that are willing to may more for the property than you are.  Nothing more than that.  
    Nothing wrong with that, just in my experience so far of really wanting 2 houses, they've both been inflated over and above the asking price by cash buyers, which gives 0 chance of out bidding since they have the cash to just get a mortgage if they really want to beat you, then the risk of the bank valuing the house much lower which = higher deposit or higher LTV. 
    Plus Belfast has a LOT of people buying property just to rent it out, so it keeps renters renting whilst the rich people inflate the market. My current house was for sale when I wanted it 4 years ago, then I got outbid and then the seller rented it to me because I liked it so much.
  • When I was selling the EA called people with a mortgage cash buyers too - they were getting the cash by selling their houses.  I'm a cash already in the bank buyer as I sold and went into rented.  I didn't have any advantage over the other bidders on my prospective purchase, I just saw it first and was asked to offer more to secure it. 
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