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Will My Bill Payments Be Viewed as Gifts?
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Saga
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in Cutting tax
Background: Three years ago I gave up my rented flat
and moved in with my oldest friend, as a second tenant on the tenancy
agreement, to help us both to separately save up money as well as for me
to move much closer to work. As they were already renting the property
before I moved in, all the bills remained in their name (energy,
council tax*, TV licence, broadband/TV/phone) and are paid via DD from
their a/c. We so decided at the beginning against a joint bills account
and instead each month I pay my friend 50% of that month's household
bill via bank transfer (FPS), using my initials and month/year as the
reference. The rent is slightly different (although included in my
monthly transfer) in that each monthly receipt from the letting agency
is actually in both our names although the DD itself comes from my
friend's account.
There is nothing formal in writing regarding
the arrangement for paying the bills (indeed for a good number of
months I had to** cover 100% of the bills when my friend was going
through some very serious health problems).
*I have been on the electoral register at the current address since I moved in.
**i.e. made the choice to.
Question: Is the money I transfer to my friend each month to cover my half of the bills as far as HMRC are concerned viewed as a gift to my friend (re inheritance tax & the 7-year rule)? If so, what should I do to
make sure it's not?
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You are paying your share of joint costs so there is no gift (your friend would technically be making you a gift if he let you live there cost free).0
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Jeremy535897 said:You are paying your share of joint costs so there is no gift (your friend would technically be making you a gift if he let you live there cost free).
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HMRC are not going to trawl through all your accounts and ask your executors to explain every transaction. Is your estate likely to exceed £325,000 including any real gifts outside exemptions in the past seven years? Remember that you can make the following exempt gifts (not a full list):
- £3,000 a tax year annual exemption (plus £3,000 brought forward if unused)
- £250 to each donee per year (but not to the recipient of the annual exemption)
- normal expenditure out of income
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Saga said:Jeremy535897 said:You are paying your share of joint costs so there is no gift (your friend would technically be making you a gift if he let you live there cost free).
For deceased estates
The administrator does the work and puts together a capital return for the estate,
HMRC look at that and then decide if they need to have a closer look.
HMRC will know because the administrator tells them if asked
As well as the documented gifts allowances a lot of the smaller gifts never get documented or included in the returns even if they go over the allowed amounts mainly because people don't know and just consider them part of normal life or regular gifts from income(that don't get documented).
eg. if I took my mum out to dinner every week and it cost £25 for her meal that's £1,300 gifted from income that won't be going down on my IHT403 .
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Thanks for explanation, getmore4less. I guess it's the same for the recipient (re income tax).
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Saga said:Thanks for explanation, getmore4less. I guess it's the same for the recipient (re income tax).
If you're really concerned (& there is no need to be!) just leave a note with your will to the effect that for the period ... (when you are staying with your friend) that regular monthly payments to their account are to cover your share of joint bills and rent.
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