Going back on furlough while still redendant

giantcatbear99

I have been on the furlough scheme since it started. I was made redundant when it originally ended and requested pay in lieu of notice. Now my employer has asked if I want to go back on it. I am still redundant at the end of it and they've said it doesn't affect my entitlements. Has this happened to anyone else?

epm-84

You're lucky then.  Obviously your employer doesn't think they'll be a role for you at the end of it but will allow you to get furlough instead of claiming benefits (which will likely be a much lower amount.) 

Unless you have worked there over 2 years and the furlough end date change won't affect the full number of years you've worked there, then yes they can just tell you to keep what you've received and that you won't get any extra.  If it does increase the number of full years you've worked there I would stay quiet for now, as if you point this out your employer might end your furlough earlier than they would otherwise do.

Jeremy535897

When were you made redundant precisely?

giantcatbear99

Jeremy535897 said:

When were you made redundant precisely?

30th October.

Jeremy535897

Then they can rehire you and furlough you.

"2.4 Employees re-employed by their employer

Employees that were employed and on the payroll on 23 September 2020 who were made redundant or stopped working for their employer afterwards can be re-employed and claimed for. The employer must have made a PAYE Real Time Information (RTI) submission to HMRC from 20 March 2020 to 23 September 2020, notifying a payment of earnings for those employees.

Similarly, an employee who was on a fixed term contract, on payroll on 23 September, and that contract expired after 23 September can be re-employed and claimed for, provided that the other eligibility criteria are met."

From https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/extension-to-the-coronavirus-job-retention-scheme/extension-of-the-coronavirus-job-retention-scheme

You will have to establish whether you need to repay your redundancy payment etc, or whether they are treating this as a new job with no continuity of service.

bradders1983

Or, they can tell you to do one once they realise it wont be a freebie for them, and you wont get a penny.

giantcatbear99

bradders1983 said:

Or, they can tell you to do one once they realise it wont be a freebie for them, and you wont get a penny.

I've been told in writing and verbally that I am still redundant and it won't affect my entitlement to redundancy pay. 

bradders1983

giantcatbear99 said:

bradders1983 said:

Or, they can tell you to do one once they realise it wont be a freebie for them, and you wont get a penny.

I've been told in writing and verbally that I am still redundant and it won't affect my entitlement to redundancy pay. 

That wasnt the point I was making. Yes the employer can take you back on and get the money from the Government, but they will incur costs themselves to furlough you, you also accrue holiday days that they have to pay for. I assume they realise this?

giantcatbear99

bradders1983 said:

giantcatbear99 said:

bradders1983 said:

Or, they can tell you to do one once they realise it wont be a freebie for them, and you wont get a penny.

I've been told in writing and verbally that I am still redundant and it won't affect my entitlement to redundancy pay. 

That wasnt the point I was making. Yes the employer can take you back on and get the money from the Government, but they will incur costs themselves to furlough you, you also accrue holiday days that they have to pay for. I assume they realise this?

Yes. That was detailed in the letter. They're prepared to pay for any additional holiday days accrued.

bradders1983

In that case then your ex employer is a mug, but you may as well pounce on it.