Planning Application - Help please!

princeofpounds

If you google 'Dacorum 45 degree' you'll find a bunch of notices where it has been discussed. It appears they use it as a 'rule of thumb' but it is not a pass/fail criterion and there are applications that have minor infringements that have been granted. So context will presumably help - what aspect is the shading coming from? What rooms is it impacting? How far does it breach the rule in each orientation etc. 

Alan2020

You are making a fundamental mistake objecting out of spite.

Personally I think it adds value to your neighbours house. This means it goes up in price. Then you can also apply for permission and sell at an increased value or extend and enjoy the extra space and have the same view.

Also by getting it rejected you automatically devalue all the properties including yours as any potential buyer knows this potential no longer exists.

selfishness is a bad thing 

Alan2020

Also remember the neighbour will know you objected. If the neighbour so wished the can under permitted development build an ugly solid white or brown upvc porch 3m deep and the size of a doorway removing your view and devaluing your property. It will be under permitted development if the space allows 

princeofpounds

Alan2020 said:

Also remember the neighbour will know you objected. If the neighbour so wished the can under permitted development build an ugly solid white or brown upvc porch 3m deep and the size of a doorway removing your view and devaluing your property. It will be under permitted development if the space allows 

Permitted development rules for porches:
https://www.planningportal.co.uk/info/200130/common_projects/46/porches
https://www.planninggeek.co.uk/gpdo/dwellinghouse/porches/

No scale on the plans but I suspect that it would not fit on their existing doorway due to proximity to boundary.

As for objecting - of course neighbours will know. It's a public process. But it shouldn't stop you making your case if you think it's valid and you want to make it. That doesn't make it spite.

As for adding value - I'm not sure that a small and ugly front extension really helps that much. I'd agree with Alan's contention if it were, say, a rear extension in a large enough garden. But it may be that the OP and others just don't like the effect it would have on the streetscene.

DayDreamerandGeneralWaster

Our house had a front extension in the early 90s. The house next door followed suit not long after buying it. The front gardens are larger than the back. Well was, half of it is a drive now. I can imagine until next door did theirs it probably did look odd. We are semi not terraced. But it has added to the space immensely, it would have been a bit pokey otherwise as a family home. Did the vendor know this was in the pipeline l wonder?

pinkteapot

Alan2020 said:

You are making a fundamental mistake objecting out of spite.

Personally I think it adds value to your neighbours house. This means it goes up in price. Then you can also apply for permission and sell at an increased value or extend and enjoy the extra space and have the same view.
 

OP is not objecting out of spite. They're objecting because they're going to see a solid brick wall right outside their kitchen window! I'd be objecting too. 

It'll add value to the neighbour while arguably devaluing OP's (or at least hindering sale-ability with that wall outside the kitchen window, which will be visible as you walk into the kitchen). 

OP shouldn't be forced to extend their house just so they can live with a neighbour's extension. You say OP is being selfish, but the neighbour has been selfish first and OP is just responding. 

Kookaracha

Thanks again princeofpounds, I've found them! Its a shame I can't find it written in policy, lots of other councils seem to have it. I think it breaks the rule - I've tried to calculate it and it's 56 degrees, so quite a bit over. But I hope we can get find a professional to measure this accurately - not just me stood in the flowerbed with a measuring tape and my school algebra. But the fact that they have a hipped roof on the far side of the plan and a gabled roof on our side does also make the plan seem weirdly unsymmetrical.? I'm hoping if they can at least take it back a little bit land make the roof a bit lower it might be bearable and not overshadow us as much.  I was waiting for the angry poster on such a hot topic and there he is! But thanks to everyone else for their help.

I'm not objecting out of spite or them building anything at all, just something so long out the font. Part of the reason we liked the house is the nice aspect and views of the hills which we will lose sight of. They have plenty of room to build out the back, which would also add value and we wouldn't object to. We have a conservatory and they have nothing there. I'm glad they will know who objected, if they had mentioned it to us before applying or shown us the plans so and we could raise our concerns to them beforehand, but it takes all sorts, I guess. 

Kookaracha

Thanks pinkteapot and princeofpounds for the advice - I just thought this forum would be loads of Alans coming at me! 

princeofpounds

Kookaracha said:

Thanks pinkteapot and princeofpounds for the advice - I just thought this forum would be loads of Alans coming at me! 

LOL what the collective noun for a group of Alans? 

Anyway, despite the tone, not everything he said was off the mark so take the input and find what's useful.

Alan2020

pinkteapot said:

Alan2020 said:

You are making a fundamental mistake objecting out of spite.

Personally I think it adds value to your neighbours house. This means it goes up in price. Then you can also apply for permission and sell at an increased value or extend and enjoy the extra space and have the same view.
 

OP is not objecting out of spite. They're objecting because they're going to see a solid brick wall right outside their kitchen window! I'd be objecting too. 

It'll add value to the neighbour while arguably devaluing OP's (or at least hindering sale-ability with that wall outside the kitchen window, which will be visible as you walk into the kitchen). 

OP shouldn't be forced to extend their house just so they can live with a neighbour's extension. You say OP is being selfish, but the neighbour has been selfish first and OP is just responding. 

The OP is just a selfish NIMBY sorry NIMFY ;-)
The very existence of OPs house blocks the terraces behind them of a glorious view. People like the OP are just objecting due to views and nothing else. We wouldn’t have housing stocks if people objected to all slights.