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Balancing pond on new build estate

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  • weeg
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    They are very standard, and are almost invariably fitted with silt traps at the upstream entrance, which very much do not cost thousands to empty. It's not something worth worrying about.
  • getmore4less
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    edited 9 November 2020 at 12:56PM
    https://www.bellway.co.uk/new-homes/south-midlands/the-rosehips

    There is a map interface to planning.
    http://maps.wychavon.gov.uk/portal_mhdc/mycustommap.html#/def_planning

    This looks like the initial outline planning.
    https://plan.malvernhills.gov.uk/search.aspx
    14/01231/OUT
    work your way through the reports a few relate to flooding and water 

    then find all the followup applications for the site.

  • davidmcn
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    davidmcn said:
    dimbo61 said:
    I get very nervous about ponds and kids full stop !
    Why do they need the ponds ? 
    New build estates with 3/4/5 bed houses so young children 
    So are the ponds for drainage or to look pretty ?
    They're to stop flooding.  Either across the estate or further downstream locally. 
    Not necessarily "flooding" as we'd commonly call it, but more often to stop the foul sewers from overflowing into water courses when it rains.
    Foul and surface water are in two completely different systems on new build estates and have been for some time.
    Depends if the surface water has somewhere to go, surely? There's a development across the road from me which has attentuation tanks but everything ends up going into the existing combined sewer.
  • weeg
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    davidmcn said:
    davidmcn said:
    dimbo61 said:
    I get very nervous about ponds and kids full stop !
    Why do they need the ponds ? 
    New build estates with 3/4/5 bed houses so young children 
    So are the ponds for drainage or to look pretty ?
    They're to stop flooding.  Either across the estate or further downstream locally. 
    Not necessarily "flooding" as we'd commonly call it, but more often to stop the foul sewers from overflowing into water courses when it rains.
    Foul and surface water are in two completely different systems on new build estates and have been for some time.
    Depends if the surface water has somewhere to go, surely? There's a development across the road from me which has attentuation tanks but everything ends up going into the existing combined sewer.
    It's very rare to get permission to put new surface water into an existing CS. Mostly they go to a water course, or a surface water sewer or soakaways.
  • Ours was adopted by the water company Anglian Water. 
  • Ours was adopted by the water company Anglian Water. 
    Thanks. How soon did that happen?
  • SuDs is a must in most new developments now, it is to ensure the displacement of water isn't affected as you replace soil with concrete.  Think of it as a giant sponge.  In addition to SuDs there may be a need to have hidden tanks, open stream or ponds to store the water if the standard sponge cannot hold enough water to slowly release it.  I see it as a good to have feature, you don't want it to flood because it rained hard and because the water has nowhere to go.

    What is your greatest fear?  Just management fees?

    Majority new build management fees are towards for them being there.  The actual charges for services such as swapping bulbs, cutting grass, cleaning a sewage pump if they have one or in this case cleaning a pond is relatively small (remember it is split evenly across all dwellings).  With or without the pond norm is about £35 a month all-in?  (Based on my experience with new builds in Surrey).  
  • SuDs is a must in most new developments now, it is to ensure the displacement of water isn't affected as you replace soil with concrete.  Think of it as a giant sponge.  In addition to SuDs there may be a need to have hidden tanks, open stream or ponds to store the water if the standard sponge cannot hold enough water to slowly release it.  I see it as a good to have feature, you don't want it to flood because it rained hard and because the water has nowhere to go.

    What is your greatest fear?  Just management fees?

    Majority new build management fees are towards for them being there.  The actual charges for services such as swapping bulbs, cutting grass, cleaning a sewage pump if they have one or in this case cleaning a pond is relatively small (remember it is split evenly across all dwellings).  With or without the pond norm is about £35 a month all-in?  (Based on my experience with new builds in Surrey).  
    Hi, yes I’m not bothered about the SUDS themselves. I just got myself into a tizz about how far the management fees could hike (it’s one of the those ‘reasonable’ nonsenses). The fees at the moment are £150 a year. We’re close to exchanging so just want to know what we’re getting into. 
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