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Moving into all electric flat with storage heaters and THTC, any tips during the pre-move??

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  • qwert10
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    forgot to say the second switch is probably for output during the day so if you are out and close doors you can close it off and open up when you return. Also no boiler servicing charges so save £100 a year.
  • Gerry1
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    qwert10 said:
    There are energy deals where you get either free or really cheap energy at night worth a look but but rate dearer in day. Also you will save on gas standing daily charge.
    If you have gas there's no way you should even think of using electricity for room heating or hot water.  Why would you want to use a fuel with kWh rates costing about five times as much?
    qwert10 said:
    The older storage heaters are more reliable than new ones mine had bricks inside and were second hand and in 20 years never went wrong.sure yours are newer.
    The low capital cost can make that cost effective, but you'll be wasting energy keeping the rooms red hot through most of the night.  Same again if you're usually out during the day.  The clever programmable ones are better insulated and blow out heat only when needed, but they're not cheap to buy.  Old storage heaters may lack capacity if they were designed for tariffs with an afternoon boost but are now operated on E7, although adding an extra old one may be cheaper than replacing them with clever modern ones.
    qwert10 said:
    Also used to recharge everything overnight.
    In most cases the savings will be negligible, unless it's an EV; look at the label and you'll see they only use a few watts.  Room and water heating is where most savings can be made, tumble dryers and washing machines also to some extent.
  • qwert10 said:
    forgot to say the second switch is probably for output during the day so if you are out and close doors you can close it off and open up when you return. Also no boiler servicing charges so save £100 a year.
    Not sure where you get that price from but it is way off the mark for a boiler service. Our last one was £50 by a local company.

    I'm damn sure it would cost us more than £50 to heat our house with electric rather than gas!!
  • me1000uk
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    edited 25 November 2020 at 10:25PM
    Thanks for the responses but it is all electric property. I've been trying to do my own research and there seems to be options. 
    THTC with SSE is very expensive, but from a convenience side the setup works best for an all electric property and with 2 potential other suppliers that can offer better rates (I believe EDF and Scottish Power) there are options.
    The fact that potentially panel heaters, hot water and even electric shower are cheaper rate means this 'daytime' boost scenario for storage or water tank for E7 doesn't matter for THTC. 

    Essentially all the expensive heating for THTC goes to an all-day off peak meter (with bottom element of water tank and storage heaters working only at specific radio controlled times) and to move this to the E7 corresponding section on the meter could be a problem as you'll need storage heater and bottom element to switch on only for E7 time, and the day boosts of water tank and storage heater, and panel heaters to remain active during the day. This seems like it needs more than a meter change.
    My guess is I'll use 60-70% cheap rates on THTC and probably 40-50 on E7, due to a demand for evening panel heaters and showers that aren't mega early. That slight shift to increased day rates means that over the course of the year it could be 10s of pounds and that's definitely not worth the hassle of an upheaval in routine/potential electrical work which could prove costly. It also happens to be a one way ticket to E7 and despite the increased competition from E7 suppliers, the usage shift will sometimes need heating the home and water at points during the day not to mention electric showers.

    If I've missed something glaring then happy to be corrected otherwise hope this also helps someone in a similar position.


  • surfsister10
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    edited 28 November 2020 at 8:48AM
    qwert10 said:
    forgot to say the second switch is probably for output during the day so if you are out and close doors you can close it off and open up when you return. Also no boiler servicing charges so save £100 a year.
    Not sure where you get that price from but it is way off the mark for a boiler service. Our last one was £50 by a local company.

    I'm damn sure it would cost us more than £50 to heat our house with electric rather than gas!!
    do you live up north? boiler serve here in South costs £80 plus!
    Local Heroes customers typically paid between £64 and £106 for a boiler service. The most common price was £85. Plus if you could read you would realise that his place is all electric!! I'm damned sure of that!
  • Gerry1
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    qwert10 said:
    forgot to say the second switch is probably for output during the day so if you are out and close doors you can close it off and open up when you return. Also no boiler servicing charges so save £100 a year.
    Not sure where you get that price from but it is way off the mark for a boiler service. Our last one was £50 by a local company.

    I'm damn sure it would cost us more than £50 to heat our house with electric rather than gas!!
      Plus if you could read you would realise that his place is all electric!! I'm damned sure of that!
    If you could read you'd realise that the thread has become slightly muddled because another poster has joined in.
    It's usually better to start a separate thread, otherwise it can be hard to match up the questions and answers when there have been multiple OPs.
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