Furlough pay

bradders1983

Jeremy535897 said:

epm-84 said:

Jeremy535897 said:

bradders1983 said:

Easy71 said:

Hello my daughter is 17 and a waitress at a local restaurant, she is paid cash in hand and works around 20 hours a week but has been told she won’t get any furlough pay as it’s too complicated to work out!!

So your daughter illegally pays no tax on her wages yet you want her to have a taxpayer funded bailout on her lack of wages? 🙄

If she was on minimum wage she'd have to work about 60 hours a week to pay tax, not 20. At minimum wage on 20 hours a week she wouldn't hit £120 a week. It's not her fault she's not on the payroll. It is her employer's.

Well it would be 53 hours and for 53 hours it would be just £8 tax per year, presuming no other income.  However, NI is the most important consideration, which is still a form of income tax albeit with a different name and if you are working but don't earn enough to pay NI then you may get NI credits.

I think it's also important to check she is getting the full pay and they are deducting tax or NI and then not passing it on to HMRC, as that way she can't get refunded by HMRC if she pays too much in tax.

OP has already said she works only 20 hours. She will be well below the NI threshold, and below the level to count for NI credits. I don't see a 17 year old waitress standing up to the boss and demanding a payslip. She will just be sacked. It is unfortunate she won't get furlough, but if this was the only job going, at least she got a wage when she worked, as opposed to being unemployed.

The dad clearly knew she was cash in hand, and then comes on here asking for loopholes.

unholyangel

Cash in hand just means you get paid in cash. Doesn't necessarily mean the employer is doing anything dodgy. 

Same with PAYE. Only required to operate PAYE if any employee is over the threshold.

Jeremy535897

unholyangel said:

Cash in hand just means you get paid in cash. Doesn't necessarily mean the employer is doing anything dodgy. 

Same with PAYE. Only required to operate PAYE if any employee is over the threshold.

I agree that there is nothing wrong with paying in cash, but I doubt that every employee is earning under £120 a week, which is the only way legally to avoid registering a payroll, and putting every employee on it.

unholyangel

Jeremy535897 said:

unholyangel said:

Cash in hand just means you get paid in cash. Doesn't necessarily mean the employer is doing anything dodgy. 

Same with PAYE. Only required to operate PAYE if any employee is over the threshold.

I agree that there is nothing wrong with paying in cash, but I doubt that every employee is earning under £120 a week, which is the only way legally to avoid registering a payroll, and putting every employee on it.

Depends on the restaurant I guess. 

I know a few who only ever hired 3-4 teenagers with 2-3 shifts each. None of them were over the limit.