Trying to sell

KatrinaWaves

Veeo said:

KatrinaWaves said:

Wanderingpomm said:

greatcrested said:

You are trying to market the property far too early. There is nopoint taking photos at this stage so you do not need access.

Once the tenants have left and the property is empty, that is the time to start marketing. 

 It’s taking so long to do conveyancing now it will take 4-6 months from offer. If you’ve given notice then I think I would have it on the market. I assume the tenants have been good and are likely to leave? 

How can anyone say if someone is ‘likely to leave’ we have no idea what the world will look like in 6 months nooooo i. Maybe they won’t be able to move or will struggle due to financial issues caused by what’s going on. Maybe they think issuing eviction proceedings during a worldwide pandemic is a bit rubbish and decide to be as awkward as possible, despite being the best tenants during their stay. 

I wouldn’t be letting strangers in my house to view/photograph my property to suit my landlord. I can’t even have my family round, there is absolutely no chance I’d be letting agents and random prospective buyers round. 

I can assure you that I will not be breaking the law and asking the tenants to give access for viewings if the government puts Covid-19 restrictions to prevent it. I am still at the photos stage and was hoping to get the photos done before we go into lockdown 2. But that's anyway. 

Please stop calling everyone ‘hun’ This isn’t Facebook 🤦🏻‍♀️

They gave their permission for phone numbers on Thursday. It’s now Tuesday, and you’re annoyed they haven’t answered their phone in the three working days they’ve been calling? They probably have a million and one things they care more about than helping  you sell your house. You work around them, they don’t work around you. 

 I realise Boris and friends don’t think this but Covid won’t magically spring out of its box again on Thursday when lockdown starts. It’s about now, and your rush and desire to get the ball rolling does not create an urgency on their part, and if I were them I would not be letting someone into my home. Like I said, I cannot even have my friends and family in, why would they let in a photographer? 

Veeo

KatrinaWaves said:

Veeo said:

KatrinaWaves said:

Wanderingpomm said:

greatcrested said:

You are trying to market the property far too early. There is nopoint taking photos at this stage so you do not need access.

Once the tenants have left and the property is empty, that is the time to start marketing. 

 It’s taking so long to do conveyancing now it will take 4-6 months from offer. If you’ve given notice then I think I would have it on the market. I assume the tenants have been good and are likely to leave? 

How can anyone say if someone is ‘likely to leave’ we have no idea what the world will look like in 6 months nooooo i. Maybe they won’t be able to move or will struggle due to financial issues caused by what’s going on. Maybe they think issuing eviction proceedings during a worldwide pandemic is a bit rubbish and decide to be as awkward as possible, despite being the best tenants during their stay. 

I wouldn’t be letting strangers in my house to view/photograph my property to suit my landlord. I can’t even have my family round, there is absolutely no chance I’d be letting agents and random prospective buyers round. 

I can assure you that I will not be breaking the law and asking the tenants to give access for viewings if the government puts Covid-19 restrictions to prevent it. I am still at the photos stage and was hoping to get the photos done before we go into lockdown 2. But that's anyway. 

Please stop calling everyone ‘hun’ This isn’t Facebook 🤦🏻‍♀️

They gave their permission for phone numbers on Thursday. It’s now Tuesday, and you’re annoyed they haven’t answered their phone in the three working days they’ve been calling? They probably have a million and one things they care more about than helping  you sell your house. You work around them, they don’t work around you. 

 I realise Boris and friends don’t think this but Covid won’t magically spring out of its box again on Thursday when lockdown starts. It’s about now, and your rush and desire to get the ball rolling does not create an urgency on their part, and if I were them I would not be letting someone into my home. Like I said, I cannot even have my friends and family in, why would they let in a photographer? 

Hun I haven't asked you for a lesson in how to use my words. Please if you don't like my use of words just scroll pass. 

As I commented above the tenants had said yesterday to giving access to the agent to start the ball rolling and the call is just to confirm when the agent can go in. The agents first contact was last week before the lockdown was announced. 

Anyway, I have had a lot of constructive advice above which I am going to implement. Thanks for your time anyway. 

KatrinaWaves

That’s fine hun. 

Veeo

steampowered said:

I doubt you will find anyone willing to go round and do photos at the moment. In fact it might actually be illegal ! I don't think the government has published the full list of exemptions for this lockdown but I wouldn't be confident that estate agents are on there.

The agents have in-house Photographer and we were hoping to get the photos done before Lockdown. I guess it's a waiting game now until lockdown is over and the tenants are happy for us to go in. Thank you x

RTC87

We are in the middle of a pandemic, appreciate you may have your reasons for needing to sell but I do feel for your tenants. I hope you are compensating them for allowing you to progress with this while they are in, I certainly wouldn't oblige. 

babyblade41

You have Bob Hope and no hope . I would forget about anything until tenants have physically left. No one would consider going down the conveyance route with tenants in situ .

In stead of hassling the tenants you will have to wait to see what they want to do, they are well within their rights to stay put, it is their home after all especially with so much uncertainty.

Eviction won't probably be heard until back end of next year so be prepared for a long wait.

The SD period ends in March ..lockdown doesn't end until December 2nd earliest in some regions ..even if tenants left when you want them to then you have to find a buyer , go through the process which can take a helluva lot longer than normal .  12 weeks on average under good circumstances  but now you are looking to add a possible 6-8 weeks on top and that would possibly be good going 

greatcrested

Look sweetiepie, I think you are underestimating the potential issues here.

But, hun, until you get some communication going with your tenants (luvvie) it's all just speculation.

OK toots?

But seriously, if I was your tenant, and whether I intended to leave or not at the endof the notice, and however good our relationship, I would not allow your agent access at present

a) COVID risk

b) far too early - 6 months away for goodness sake!

bradders1983

R u all ok huns? Too meny sneks in here 🐍 🐍 🐍  inbox me babez xoxoxoxo

rik111

Have you considered you tenants may have taken exception to be ordered to leave their home.
A friend of mine was given notice to leave and immediately stop paying his rent. They had to take him to court who gave him another month to leave. When that day finally arrived he asked for his deposit back in cash or go get the baliffs.... They paid his deposit back and he disappeared with a smile on his face.
It’s no wonder your letting agents weren’t interested in selling with tenants in situ, no one in their right mind is going to make you an offer knowing they must wait a minimum of 6 months and god knows what the tenants will do to the place in the mean time.
Time to get real and understand the complications of being a landlord.

numbercruncher8

TBH there probably not many worse times to be given notice, 6 months or not.

Kind of reads to me that somehow the tenants have educated themselves on their rights in the time between the first agents call and now. As you can see, they are pretty substantial. 

I feel the carrot may be better than the stick here - if you try and force it they may dig their heels in. That's even assuming the notice is valid. If it isn't, then they could wait until the end and you'll have to do another one.

Personally I would leave it alone for the lockdown month, maybe for the rest of the year. Then try and pay some money to assist their move.