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European Smaller Companies - Satellite Investment

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  • Prism
    Prism Posts: 3,861 Forumite
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    The only two European funds have have on my shortlist are the Threadneedle and Montanaro ones. I used the Threadneedle fund for a few years but never actually bought the Montanaro European fund. I instead switched Montanaro Better World which is around 40% Europe and invests in a subset of the same European companies.
  • DairyQueen
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    Audaxer said:
    Looking at the Trustnet figures, Montanaro annualised returns are 20.6% over 5 years and 12.7% over 10 years. Threadneedle annualised returns are 14% over 5 years, 13% over 10 years. I wonder why Montanaro has done so much better over the last 5 years? Good luck as I would find it difficult as to which one to select.

    Another European fund I like the look of is Baillie Gifford European B Acc with a slightly better 10 year annualised return at 14% but I see that this fund also includes large caps, so probably not the one for you if that is covered elsewhere in your portfolio.
    I am a fan of BG and hold a couple of their funds but, as you correctly noted, large caps are covered by the core passives. 

    I am still undecided so will continue researching until one or the other appears as a clear winner. I don't (yet) know why Montanaro's performance has been relatively better in recent years. Discovering that may be the lightbulb moment.

    There seems to be a forum consensus about the best offerings in this sector and I am grateful for the input.
  • DairyQueen
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    I have discovered a few of points of interest:

    - Threadneedle lost its long-term manager to Jupiter in April last year. The performance of the fund since doesn't appear to have suffered but it's early days.
    - The former manager now runs the newly created Jupiter version of this fund. With such a short track record (inception Feb 2020) it's impossible to say how the Jupiter fund will compare.
    - Montanaro appears to have benefited from Sterling weakness over the last 5 years. This could explain it's outperformance. It also suggests that if the £ strengthens significantly the fund's performance will suffer.

    Still musing.
  • Thrugelmir
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    Audaxer said:
    Thanks for the comments.

    I am investing for growth rather than yield so either Threadneedle or Montanaro are good fits.  I have no preference for IT or OEIC. At 1.17%, Montanaro's OCF is a tad steep compared to Threadneedle's 0.88%. Both have performed well relative to their (same) index.  

    This is a small part of our portfolio and diversification is the primary reason for making this kind of investment so I will look closely at the asset allocation to determine which is the best fit. 

    Jury is still out.
     I wonder why Montanaro has done so much better over the last 5 years? 

    Narrowing of discount? 
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