Rental Properties with Pets. Urgent.

martindow

Isn't an issue, apart from contractual ones, that just moving the dog in without asking is not going to get the tenancy off to a good start and risks the LL evicting them.  Although the process of enforcing S21 is currently long drawn out, sooner or later the tenant may be out and wanting a reference to continue renting.  Good luck with that!

regency_man

martindow said:

Isn't an issue, apart from contractual ones, that just moving the dog in without asking is not going to get the tenancy off to a good start and risks the LL evicting them.  Although the process of enforcing S21 is currently long drawn out, sooner or later the tenant may be out and wanting a reference to continue renting.  Good luck with that!

So what do you suggest to people with pets who cannot afford to buy?

regency_man

Comms69 said:

Why's that funny? I dont see why people cant just make personal choices; and let the market dictate in who's hands the power lies.

It's not fair market economics is it.  Even if pet owners were willing to pay more, they are still beholden to the LL's personal opinions and beliefs about pets.  To make it fair, LLs should have no such conditions on their property, and they might find that places that are physically suitable for pets suddenly command a premium because pet owners are willing to pay more to get a home that works for their circumstances. 

Comms69

regency_man said:

Comms69 said:

Why's that funny? I dont see why people cant just make personal choices; and let the market dictate in who's hands the power lies.

It's not fair market economics is it.  Even if pet owners were willing to pay more, they are still beholden to the LL's personal opinions and beliefs about pets.  To make it fair, LLs should have no such conditions on their property, and they might find that places that are physically suitable for pets suddenly command a premium because pet owners are willing to pay more to get a home that works for their circumstances. 

That's kind of the definition of a market driven economy. 

LLs will offset their beliefs over increased profits. What you're saying is that the tenant is simply not offering enough to make it worth the landlords while.

Restricting the abilities of landlords does nothing but restrict the number and types of properties available.

The fewer restrictions, the more diverse the market; and therefore the more likely that supply outweighs demand and tenants have more rights to a bespoke tenancy

ameliarate

Aranyani said:

regency_man said:

Aranyani said:

It can, but if a tenant moves in now without telling the landlord then its going to be a really really long time before the landlord can do anything about it and evict them. 

Well over a year even if he finds out about the dog on day one. 

Thanks.  Just seems like such a shady way of operating!

Not really, the dog is trained, she needs a place to live.  Nobody will suffer except perhaps a landlord's sense of superiority and control over their tenants! 

Utter nonesense! 

Hannimal

Comms69 said:

theartfullodger said:

Comms69 said:

Realistic answer - dont tell them. Do it anyway, risk an eviction down the line

Exactly.  But if her actions are to ignore terms of her contact, why would she expect landlord to stick to his responsibility?  Asking for a friend.

Rightly or wrongly, a LL has many statutory responsibilities, which cant be ignored. A tenant does not.

A tenant has no statutory responsibilities? That is !!!!!! and you know it.

martindow

regency_man said:

martindow said:

Isn't an issue, apart from contractual ones, that just moving the dog in without asking is not going to get the tenancy off to a good start and risks the LL evicting them.  Although the process of enforcing S21 is currently long drawn out, sooner or later the tenant may be out and wanting a reference to continue renting.  Good luck with that!

So what do you suggest to people with pets who cannot afford to buy?

I suggest that they are honest and upfront and find a LL who is happy to accept their animals - not disregard what is written in tenancy agreements.  Although no pets may be not legally enforceable it can reflect a LL's preferences.  There is no escaping the fact that renting with a pet is more difficult than without.

I am not saying that this situation is morally correct, but while tenancies remain insecure with S21 that is the reality. 

Aranyani

ameliarate said:

Aranyani said:

regency_man said:

Aranyani said:

It can, but if a tenant moves in now without telling the landlord then its going to be a really really long time before the landlord can do anything about it and evict them. 

Well over a year even if he finds out about the dog on day one. 

Thanks.  Just seems like such a shady way of operating!

Not really, the dog is trained, she needs a place to live.  Nobody will suffer except perhaps a landlord's sense of superiority and control over their tenants! 

Utter nonesense! 

Which bit? 

Comms69

Hannimal said:

Comms69 said:

theartfullodger said:

Comms69 said:

Realistic answer - dont tell them. Do it anyway, risk an eviction down the line

Exactly.  But if her actions are to ignore terms of her contact, why would she expect landlord to stick to his responsibility?  Asking for a friend.

Rightly or wrongly, a LL has many statutory responsibilities, which cant be ignored. A tenant does not.

A tenant has no statutory responsibilities? That is !!!!!! and you know it.

I may have missed it, can you let me know which they are? 

rebs

I found this site useful when looking for a rental a couple of years ago (relocating to another town due to a new job) - 
https://www.letswithpets.org.uk/
We tried a variety of approaches - looked at flats that specifically said they would allow pets, but also enquired on ones that said no pets or didn't mention at all.  In some cases we said upfront about our dog and in others we said nothing - with the intention of asking later in the process.  Some places wouldn't let us view at all, but some did.
I prepared a document with some info about our dog (including the cutest picture of her I had )  and had that to hand when needed.  In the end we had to pay an additional deposit and there is a clause about additional cleaning required when we leave.