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Ebay seller sending pirate copy DVDs
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GS.. said:If you disable someones computer and only THEN (when you have them over a barrel) decide to police them, you should expect the worse. I guess you also drive down the third lane of the motorway at 70 mph. Most people don't like self appointed policemen so you already know it leads to a very acrimonious life.IvanOpinion said:......
As someone who used to help sell/build/repair/maintain PCs I used to take occasional abuse from people when I refused to re-install any software that they could not verify they had a licence for ...
Who is policing? I am just abiding by the law - those with low or flexible moral standards will struggle to understand that. Let's do a better comparison, would you walk into a shop and steal something because somebody asked you to? I have higher standards than that and fortunately the courts agree with me.
You need to read your own signature.
I don't care about your first world problems; I have enough of my own!2 -
hybernia said:eBay UK is riddled with dVD and software piracy, and has been for years. eBay seemingly prefers to do nothing about it because to come down hard on such sellers is to deny eBay its lucrative commission rates and the profitability of its business model.It's all especially noticeable in software sales, where there's instance after instance of eBay sellers getting hold of free public domain programs like GIMP and flogging 'em as if they're commercial offerings. The same blatant thievery and fraud also affects year-dated Ashampoo free-to-use products (German developer Ashampoo distinguishes between its freeware and paid-for offerings by allocating a year number to an item's title to indicate it's free, but a version number to a paid-for product).Go on eBay at any time and you'll find Ashampoo free product 2018 or free product 2019 or even (bless!) "the latest 2020" product being charged for by a seller in a deliberate mis-selling that eBay will surely by now be all too well aware of.As for the sheer number of overseas sellers from well known counterfeit markets like Morocco and Ukraine, they're all still in the business of crack'd and stolen software because they're still able to get away with citing fictitious UK addresses.0
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Takmon said:hybernia said:eBay UK is riddled with dVD and software piracy, and has been for years. eBay seemingly prefers to do nothing about it because to come down hard on such sellers is to deny eBay its lucrative commission rates and the profitability of its business model.It's all especially noticeable in software sales, where there's instance after instance of eBay sellers getting hold of free public domain programs like GIMP and flogging 'em as if they're commercial offerings. The same blatant thievery and fraud also affects year-dated Ashampoo free-to-use products (German developer Ashampoo distinguishes between its freeware and paid-for offerings by allocating a year number to an item's title to indicate it's free, but a version number to a paid-for product).Go on eBay at any time and you'll find Ashampoo free product 2018 or free product 2019 or even (bless!) "the latest 2020" product being charged for by a seller in a deliberate mis-selling that eBay will surely by now be all too well aware of.As for the sheer number of overseas sellers from well known counterfeit markets like Morocco and Ukraine, they're all still in the business of crack'd and stolen software because they're still able to get away with citing fictitious UK addresses.It can also be that someone unfamiliar with eBay and its deceptions chances upon a listing and rushes to buy because they think what they're looking at is a genuine bargain that won't be around for much longer. Having thrown caution to the wind, they now throw money at stuff that actually costs nothing.As the earlier poster said, it's especially noticeable in the computer software section of eBay, where fraudulent listings for "photo-editing software" abound. I have reported such listings as and when over the past couple of years but have now given up.One day eBay itself is going to find itself on the wrong end of a legal action by a major business able to claim that eBay's inertia actually helps scammers and fraudsters to thrive, and that eBay is therefore as much a party to a deception as those of criminal intent. Serve it right if/when Adobe flexes its muscles.
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mnbvcxz said:GS.. said:It's true that movies over 50 years old have no copyrightYou're right. The 'movies more than 50 years old have no copyright' is one of those daft assertions made by the unthinking on the unthinking mass audience platform of so-called 'social media'.Movie-making hasn't been a one-person enterprise since D W Griffith's childhood but the product of a collective of creators who copyright Law legitimately counts as including everyone who contributed to the screenplay, the producer or production company which bought and owns the rights to a third party book play or short story on which the movie was based, and the director.All -- not merely just one -- of these creators need to have been dead for up to 95 years from the date that their collective work was first copyrighted (i.e., on initial release) before their movie can be said to have lost copyright protection and entered "the public domain" .More details here: https://legalbeagle.com/12717386-about-copyright-laws-for-movies.html
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accorian said:Takmon said:hybernia said:eBay UK is riddled with dVD and software piracy, and has been for years. eBay seemingly prefers to do nothing about it because to come down hard on such sellers is to deny eBay its lucrative commission rates and the profitability of its business model.It's all especially noticeable in software sales, where there's instance after instance of eBay sellers getting hold of free public domain programs like GIMP and flogging 'em as if they're commercial offerings. The same blatant thievery and fraud also affects year-dated Ashampoo free-to-use products (German developer Ashampoo distinguishes between its freeware and paid-for offerings by allocating a year number to an item's title to indicate it's free, but a version number to a paid-for product).Go on eBay at any time and you'll find Ashampoo free product 2018 or free product 2019 or even (bless!) "the latest 2020" product being charged for by a seller in a deliberate mis-selling that eBay will surely by now be all too well aware of.As for the sheer number of overseas sellers from well known counterfeit markets like Morocco and Ukraine, they're all still in the business of crack'd and stolen software because they're still able to get away with citing fictitious UK addresses.It can also be that someone unfamiliar with eBay and its deceptions chances upon a listing and rushes to buy because they think what they're looking at is a genuine bargain that won't be around for much longer. Having thrown caution to the wind, they now throw money at stuff that actually costs nothing.0
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I have bought older movies/series on ebay and Amazon. Only one was a replica (and it didn't work), seller offered a refund immediately. I tend to prefer to buy on Amazon though or from a seller like Music Magpie I know is less likely to stock replicas. I always look carefully at a listing for signs of expected wear etc. Its usually easy to spot the fakes. But I did pay quite a price to buy a complete series and when the item turned up the box was a lot more worn than the pictures showed but discs were in good shape.
But it has to be said, quite often you can go to Youtube and watch/listen to the item for free lol.0 -
accorian said:mnbvcxz said:GS.. said:It's true that movies over 50 years old have no copyrightYou're right. The 'movies more than 50 years old have no copyright' is one of those daft assertions made by the unthinking on the unthinking mass audience platform of so-called 'social media'.Movie-making hasn't been a one-person enterprise since D W Griffith's childhood but the product of a collective of creators who copyright Law legitimately counts as including everyone who contributed to the screenplay, the producer or production company which bought and owns the rights to a third party book play or short story on which the movie was based, and the director.All -- not merely just one -- of these creators need to have been dead for up to 95 years from the date that their collective work was first copyrighted (i.e., on initial release) before their movie can be said to have lost copyright protection and entered "the public domain" .More details here: https://legalbeagle.com/12717386-about-copyright-laws-for-movies.htmlIsn't there also something about copyright on a new 'creation' based on out-of-copyright works?Eg, All of Shakespeare's works (for example) must be out of copyright now, but that doesn't mean a recently published book of, say, Macbeth is copyright-free because the book itself is a new 'creation'. Thus, photocopying the book would be a copyright offence even if the play itself was out of copyright.I'm not entirely sure though, but if correct, could the copying of a DVD containing an out-of-copyright movie still be a copyright offence against the creator of the origina DVD?0
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