Smart meters

brewerdave

Gerry1 said:

Carrot007 said:

Ectophile said:

Sterlingtimes said:

macman said:

So you are quite happy to continue with a meter that is old, and may be inaccurate or unsafe? Why would that be?

... and you place yourself in a difficult position with your insurance company if you resist having a modern compliant meter fitted.

Where does this idea come from that anything you do, or don't do, in your home instantly invalidates your insurance?

It keeps coming up on this forum, and never makes any sense.

If your house burnt down because you refused to change the old meter and the company found out they may not want to pay. Seems reasonable. But never gonna happen. The out of certification is for accuracy not safety (which the physical read requirement is for (even for smart meters)).

But when did an anaogue meter ever catch fire because of its spinning disk getting red hot?

Depends how big the cannabis farm is !!!!

Carrot007

Gerry1 said:

Carrot007 said:

Ectophile said:

Sterlingtimes said:

macman said:

So you are quite happy to continue with a meter that is old, and may be inaccurate or unsafe? Why would that be?

... and you place yourself in a difficult position with your insurance company if you resist having a modern compliant meter fitted.

Where does this idea come from that anything you do, or don't do, in your home instantly invalidates your insurance?

It keeps coming up on this forum, and never makes any sense.

If your house burnt down because you refused to change the old meter and the company found out they may not want to pay. Seems reasonable. But never gonna happen. The out of certification is for accuracy not safety (which the physical read requirement is for (even for smart meters)).

It's more likely that your house will burn down if you have a smart meter !  Fires caused Saskatchewan to replace 105,000 smart meters, and forced the resignation of SaskPower's CEO.

70,000 smart meters also had to be replaced in Oregon apparently because of the kill switch overheating, and 100,000 were replaced in Philadelphia.

Closer to home, there have been similar disastrous fires in North London and Wales.

But when did an anaogue meter ever catch fire because of its spinning disk getting red hot?

So:

a. american idiots.

b. Uk thing is nothing to do with smart meters beyond that was the meter fitted (alledegly). And yes in the big roll out some "engineers" were poorly trained. However they can put the tails in any meter poorly and cause fire when they fall out. Really depends on where the meter is. Happend to my father years back, just fell on washing machine and killed it. No fire. Fire's occur with this when people think the cupboard with the meter if just there to be packed full of everythign and so cause a fire hazard (and which again has nothing to do with the meter type which is no less safe than any other).

Carrot007

brewerdave said:

Gerry1 said:

Carrot007 said:

Ectophile said:

Sterlingtimes said:

macman said:

So you are quite happy to continue with a meter that is old, and may be inaccurate or unsafe? Why would that be?

... and you place yourself in a difficult position with your insurance company if you resist having a modern compliant meter fitted.

Where does this idea come from that anything you do, or don't do, in your home instantly invalidates your insurance?

It keeps coming up on this forum, and never makes any sense.

If your house burnt down because you refused to change the old meter and the company found out they may not want to pay. Seems reasonable. But never gonna happen. The out of certification is for accuracy not safety (which the physical read requirement is for (even for smart meters)).

But when did an anaogue meter ever catch fire because of its spinning disk getting red hot?

Depends how big the cannabis farm is !!!!

Fortunatly with low cost low heat led lighting, the smart meters no longer suffer from this (well any current meter really).

smartbusybee

I am also interested in whether I am obliged to let the energy company install a smart meter. Is is compulsory?

Gerry1

smartbusybee said:

I am also interested in whether I am obliged to let the energy company install a smart meter. Is is compulsory?

No, they are not compulsory.  However, the big boys may make some tariffs available only if you agree to have a smart meter installed.

Biggus_Dickus

Back in March my daughter had a letter from the National Grid Metering people advising that her gas meter needed to be replaced due to its age etc.

The job went ahead on March 17th and the gas-fitter simply replaced the old analogue meter with a newer analogue meter.

Oddly enough there was no dialogue whatsoever with regard to a smart-meter (which I would have expected!) but looking back at the original letter it’s made clear that it would be a like-for-like swop,...not an upgrade to a new smart-meter.

 

 

MWT

Biggus_Dickus said:

Back in March my daughter had a letter from the National Grid Metering people advising that her gas meter needed to be replaced due to its age etc...

Not much incentive to put in a smart gas meter unless also changing the electricity meter at the same time, and I suspect that there are still decent stocks of 'dumb' gas meters around.

MalMonroe

smartbusybee said:

I am also interested in whether I am obliged to let the energy company install a smart meter. Is is compulsory?

No it isn't. And in fact when my new neighbour moved in next door she insisted that the energy company remove the smart meter that had previously been installed. She said they emit waves (and they may very well do and we don't really know enough about them yet to be confident that they are safe) and that the smart meter in her property had an adverse effect on her family's health. (She omitted to mention to the energy company that she also smokes spliffs!)

I'm still on the old style meter but have been thinking of upgrading when I switch suppliers. Not because I have to but because it probably will be more convenient and easier to manage.  

MWT

smartbusybee said:

I am also interested in whether I am obliged to let the energy company install a smart meter. Is is compulsory?

You are not obliged to have a smart meter in smart mode, but if your old meter needs to be replaced you cannot refuse a smart meter fitted in dumb mode if that is all they have available to fit. .

Zellah

MalMonroe said:

smartbusybee said:

I am also interested in whether I am obliged to let the energy company install a smart meter. Is is compulsory?

She said they emit waves (and they may very well do and we don't really know enough about them yet to be confident that they are safe) and that the smart meter in her property had an adverse effect on her family's health. (She omitted to mention to the energy company that she also smokes spliffs!)