Parking on road taxed and insured but no MOT

Ganga

Can you not park it on a friends drive till you get it tested?

RichardD1970

wongataa said:

TooManyPoints said:

Important to note one can be fined if they have a current mot but the car is roadworthy.

How so?

Because it is an offence to have an unroadworthy car on the road.  A valid MOT does not make a car roadworthy, it just means it is probably roadworthy at the point of the test.  The MOT test does not check everything.  The vehicle could become unroadworthy after going through the MOT in a roadworthy state.

Reread the post. Sweetsand has a habit of posting inaccurate and often illegible garbage. Even when correct the poor grammar can make their meaning unclear.

hubb

Well as it's taxed and Insured I am stunned that it has to be MOT'd on the road when NOT being driven. Why would a potentially unroadworthy car be a danger to anyone stationary outside my house ? 

foxy-stoat

Don't worry about it, even if someone walks past, checks online and sees its all legal apart from the MOT, reports it to operation crackdown, crimestoppers sites or the local police station it will take the police weeks to visit, then another 2/3 weeks to write a letter.  You have plenty of time.

I reported an uninsured, un taxed, SORN'd car that was parked on a public road that was maintained by the local authority, it was damaged so it even looked abandoned, drivers door and wing caved in, flat tyre, exhaust hanging off and all they said was they would locate the RK and write a letter, give them plenty of time to move it, write another letter then maybe they would remove it.  2 months later the car was moved 100 yards down the road and moved again 3 weeks later.

foxy-stoat

TooManyPoints said:

Hi
That is incorrect as the starting point is 100 pounds but can be up to 1k and that is a fact.

As pointed out the "Starting Point" is a Band A fine (half a week's net income, reduced by a third for a guilty plea). And that's a fact. If you're talking about the minimum that can be imposed it's £0. Although very unlikely, the court could impose a Conditional Discharge or even an Absolute Discharge with no costs. In the event of the former they would be obliged to order a "Victim Surcharge" (£22) is paid. 

Important to note one can be fined if they have a current mot but the car is roadworthy.

How so?

I think they meant the car is unroadworthy.

sweetsand

[Deleted User] said:

sweetsand said:

[Deleted User] said:

OP, no-one can advise you to break the law. I can however advise you that the likely penalty for the offence is £100, and it carries no penalty points.

Hi
That is incorrect as the starting point is 100 pounds but can be up to 1k and that is a fact.
Important to note one can be fined if they have a current mot but the car is roadworthy.

HTH

ATB

No, it is absolutely correct - that's why I used the word "likely".  The normal disposal for this offence would be a fixed penalty, £100.

Only if it went to court - most likely because the accused refused an FP - would an income related fine apply. Plus prosection costs and a victim surcharge.

BTW £100 is not a starting point, there is no lower limit for the court fine.

Exactly as the mot-less driver may not want to pay or the car could have faults and may easily go to court as often those without mot have car that are not roadworth and many do faily their intial mot.  So it could easily be more and not just the 100 pounds as someone reading you post driving around with a bald tyre may think its only 100 fine but it is not
HTH

sweetsand

wongataa said:

TooManyPoints said:

Important to note one can be fined if they have a current mot but the car is roadworthy.

How so?

Because it is an offence to have an unroadworthy car on the road.  A valid MOT does not make a car roadworthy, it just means it is probably roadworthy at the point of the test.  The MOT test does not check everything.  The vehicle could become unroadworthy after going through the MOT in a roadworthy state.

Many thanks for saying what I would have posted.

ATB

Ebe_Scrooge

hubb said:

Well as it's taxed and Insured I am stunned that it has to be MOT'd on the road when NOT being driven. Why would a potentially unroadworthy car be a danger to anyone stationary outside my house ? 

Well, it could be argued that the car is capable of being driven I suppose.  But that's irrelevant - the law is that a car that's on a public road must be taxed, insured and MOT'd, end of.  The ONLY concession to the MOT is if it's being driven straight to a pre-booked MOT test.  It may seem daft, if may seem irrelevant, but that's the law.  I think that a 70mph limit on motorways is daft, what with modern cars being so much more capable of safely driving at high speed than they were 50 years ago.  But what I think doesn't matter, 70 mph is the limit, if I got done for breaking the limit then it'd be my fault, no-one else's.

hubb

Ebe_Scrooge said:

hubb said:

Well as it's taxed and Insured I am stunned that it has to be MOT'd on the road when NOT being driven. Why would a potentially unroadworthy car be a danger to anyone stationary outside my house ? 

Well, it could be argued that the car is capable of being driven I suppose.  But that's irrelevant - the law is that a car that's on a public road must be taxed, insured and MOT'd, end of.  The ONLY concession to the MOT is if it's being driven straight to a pre-booked MOT test.  It may seem daft, if may seem irrelevant, but that's the law.  I think that a 70mph limit on motorways is daft, what with modern cars being so much more capable of safely driving at high speed than they were 50 years ago.  But what I think doesn't matter, 70 mph is the limit, if I got done for breaking the limit then it'd be my fault, no-one else's.

So I could get done for parking outside while waiting for my MOT date, and yet these idiots speed unchallenged around the village everyday without fail, posing a far greater threat to society than a stationary car. Or young idiots with backfiring and raspingly loud exhausts also drive around getting away with it.

Fortunately as I am in the process of selling my mother's house I will park it on it's driveway.

Car_54

sweetsand said:

[Deleted User] said:

sweetsand said:

[Deleted User] said:

OP, no-one can advise you to break the law. I can however advise you that the likely penalty for the offence is £100, and it carries no penalty points.

Hi
That is incorrect as the starting point is 100 pounds but can be up to 1k and that is a fact.
Important to note one can be fined if they have a current mot but the car is roadworthy.

HTH

ATB

No, it is absolutely correct - that's why I used the word "likely".  The normal disposal for this offence would be a fixed penalty, £100.

Only if it went to court - most likely because the accused refused an FP - would an income related fine apply. Plus prosection costs and a victim surcharge.

BTW £100 is not a starting point, there is no lower limit for the court fine.

Exactly as the mot-less driver may not want to pay or the car could have faults and may easily go to court as often those without mot have car that are not roadworth and many do faily their intial mot.  So it could easily be more and not just the 100 pounds as someone reading you post driving around with a bald tyre may think its only 100 fine but it is not
HTH

But we're not talking about driving around, with or without a bald tyre. We were discussing the OP's car, parked on the road with no MOT.

In any event, a dniver with a bald tyre would be charged with that as a separate offence.