Redundancy on short time

scotty71183

Hi I’m really hoping someone could clear something up for me I’ve tried to get in touch with citizens advice but can never get through,the place I work has been really quite lately and we got put on a 4 day working week,I’m employed full time on a 37.5 hour contract and have worked there 8 years,as work hasn’t picked up we’ve now been put on a 3 day working week it does state in my contract if work is quite I will be put on short time,my concern is if work does not pick up the next step will be redundancy I’ve had a look on gov.uk about redundancy pay at it states it’s based on your last 12 weeks wages,does this mean if I get made redundant it will be worked out on my 3 day a week pay and not my normal contracted wage ?This just seems really unfair as if this is the case I’m set to lose a few thousand pounds 

Mrs_Woo

I can't answer the comment above but I have worked for my company for almost 2 years and because my area of the business is quiet they want me to reduce my hours.  However despite asking twice I have never received a formal contract . Can they reduce hours which I have never had in writing?
Thanks in advance 

lincroft1710

Mrs_Woo said:

I can't answer the comment above but I have worked for my company for almost 2 years and because my area of the business is quiet they want me to reduce my hours.  However despite asking twice I have never received a formal contract . Can they reduce hours which I have never had in writing?
Thanks in advance 

Worst case scenario is that with less than 2 years employment you could be dismissed without reason, so it may be better to accept the reduced hours

Tyton01

It’s a joke that a company can just get rid of staff for 2 years or less service for no reason. What’s happened to respect and dignity from employers,they just don’t seem to care. I’m sorry but it’s the way I feel. Too many people on zero hour contracts with no job protection.  Employers able to alter contracts .The government need to stop all this so employees are better protected. This pandemic has highlighted the fact that people in less paid front line jobs etc are suffering the most  and getting shafted    The government talk about retraining people in April and employing coaches to help people get better jobs .This should have been addressed years ago  but they didn’t bother . Too many people in jobs that are dead end I’m afraid and they are paying the price 

lincroft1710

Tyton01 said:

It’s a joke that a company can just get rid of staff for 2 years or less service for no reason. What’s happened to respect and dignity from employers,they just don’t seem to care. I’m sorry but it’s the way I feel. Too many people on zero hour contracts with no job protection.  Employers able to alter contracts .The government need to stop all this so employees are better protected. This pandemic has highlighted the fact that people in less paid front line jobs etc are suffering the most  and getting shafted    The government talk about retraining people in April and employing coaches to help people get better jobs .This should have been addressed years ago  but they didn’t bother . Too many people in jobs that are dead end I’m afraid and they are paying the price 

If you trawl back through social history you will find plenty of instances of zero respect from employers.

It is not in the interests of the current political party in power to increase employee protection, quite the reverse! They were the ones who increased the "no reason dismissal period" from 1 year to 2 years.

With many firms, some quite major, closing or reducing staff and outlets, the potential employee pool has increased so prospective employers can virtually dictate terms and conditions of employment.

The 1960s when you could waltz out of one factory, go down the road and get taken on for more money are long, long gone in more ways than one. 

thebrexitunicorn

scotty71183 said:

Hi I’m really hoping someone could clear something up for me I’ve tried to get in touch with citizens advice but can never get through,the place I work has been really quite lately and we got put on a 4 day working week,I’m employed full time on a 37.5 hour contract and have worked there 8 years,as work hasn’t picked up we’ve now been put on a 3 day working week it does state in my contract if work is quite I will be put on short time,my concern is if work does not pick up the next step will be redundancy I’ve had a look on gov.uk about redundancy pay at it states it’s based on your last 12 weeks wages,does this mean if I get made redundant it will be worked out on my 3 day a week pay and not my normal contracted wage ?This just seems really unfair as if this is the case I’m set to lose a few thousand pounds 

If you’re contracted for 37.5 hrs that’s what your redundancy should be based on. The short time working is a temporary measure, it shouldn’t affect the redundancy  entitlement.  The average of last 12 weeks worked is when normal weekly hours vary. Call the Acas helpline if you want to check.