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Parking fine

I recieved a parking fine,frow BW Legal.
I think a scam firm ?
I bought a car for my girlfriend ,log book in my name ,we are no longer together,she got the fine and now they are chasing me for the dept.I have never drove the car and was not driving when parking fine was given .Any help please, thanks in advance, David .

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  • Redx
    Redx Posts: 38,084 Forumite
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    edited 30 September 2020 at 12:41PM
    B W legal are a solicitors and debt collector , they did not issue any PCN , but are chasing the alleged debt

    Which parking firm issued the PCN ??

    If you do not want to deal with it , tell the parking company who was driving , her name and address , before any court claim arrives , until you do that , which you were told in the original PCN and failed to do , then you could be liable and be taken to court !! (Because your name was on the V5C)

    Ps , it's not a fine , it's an invoice from the Parking company , what you have now is either a debt collection letter , or a letter before claim

    If the vehicle had been caught speeding on camera , then you would have received an N I P and would have either named the driver or been prosecuted yourself , this is not much different , your name , so currently your problem, in future don't agree to any legal documents unless you agree to be bound by them , be it a mobile phone contract for another person , or a car log book
  • D_P_Dance
    D_P_Dance Posts: 11,503 Forumite
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    This is not a fine, this is an invoice from a scammer, possible an ex-clamper for compensation for the damage they allege they suffered as a reslt of your dastedly behaviour. Pay them not a penny unless a judge orders you to.

    Nine times out of ten these tickets are scams, so consider complaining to your MP, sometimes it can lead to cancellation.,

    Parliament is well aware of the MO of these private parking companies, many of whom are former clampers, and on 15th March 2019 a Bill was enacted to curb the excesses of these shysters. Codes of Practice are being drawn up, and darfts have beenopened for publc consulatation,

    Just as the clampers were finally closed down, so hopefully will many of these companies, persistent offenders denied access to the DVLA database and unable to operate.

    Hopefully life will become impossible for the worst of these scammers, under new legislation but until this is done you should still complain to your MP, citing the new legislation.

    http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2019/8/contents/



    Please also read these and have your say


    https://standardsdevelopment.bsigroup.com/projects/2020-00193#/section

    You do not need to register to comment on the enforcement framework which can be found here. It has a link on page 5 to make comments.

    https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/913272/Code_Enforcement_Framework_consultation.pdf


    You never know how far you can go until you go too far.
  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 131,613 Forumite
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    You must reply and tell them you were not driving, and have never driven this car (if true).  They will sue you if you leave it.

    AND - CALLING ALL NEWBIES!

    Please now make a real difference because not enough people have yet, and time is running out.

    An urgent task – deadline approaching in about ten days:

    The Government is consulting for just a few more days, about a new statutory code of practice (CoP) and framework to rein in the rogue parking firms.  Read and comment on the draft CoP proposal and the enforcement framework consultation, and get everyone you know to do the same.

    You will need to register then log in, to comment on the CoP and enter an occupation even if you are retired or a homemaker.  Submit comments as soon as you are happy with them.

    https://standardsdevelopment.bsigroup.com/projects/2020-00193#/section

    You do not need to register to comment on the enforcement framework which can be found here. It has a link on page 5 to make comments.
    https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/913272/Code_Enforcement_Framework_consultation.pdf

    HOW TO DO THE SUBMISSIONS:

    1. Read the cover letter

    2. Read the cover letter again and note the suggested extra questions...and if you agree that, say, the 'loading/unloading and dropping off, asking for directions, and disabled people parking on double yellows as they can on street' activities listed should be exempt (not parking events, what do you think?) then please go to the Annexes at the end of the PAS Code and find the one about Exempt Vehicles and state what other activity you think should be added to the exempt list.  

     

    If you do nothing else, please comment on:

    - the amount of the parking charge levels

    - the annexes at the end of the PAS (reading through the whole thing takes hours so if you have nothing to say about the definitions, for example, then skip to more vital points and the annex tables at the end.

    - the bit about debt collectors and whether you think PPCs should be allowed to add 'costs' a second time, for the letters that are already within the rationale of the 'parking charge' sum...hmmm...


    Responses into the PAS 232 and MHCLG framework documents are not completely straightforward:

    On the MHCLG response, you have to answer the questions on a 1-5 scale from strongly agree to strongly disagree, and then put some commentary. No way to upload documents or alternatives but this doesn't take long.

     

     On the PAS 232, you have to click on each clause and sub-clause to put your comments, and a suggested rewording of their draft.  You can see comments which other people have written!   But, when you click ‘submit’, a message pops up to say your comments have been received, but that only applies to the particular clause you have just addressed.  

    You have to go back up and find the next section, then the next...

    You have to click ‘submit’ separately for each individual clause response.  Some people will be caught out by this but can revisit it and add further responses up to 12 October.

     

    Things to think about:

    A Speeding fine is £100.  A Local Authority lower rate parking penalty is £50.  Which do you think a private PCN should be like or do you think it should be something different?  

    Do you think if all payment methods are not functioning that PPC can 'fine' you?

     

    Do you think the examples mentioned in the cover letter are right and need adding to the Annex?

     

    etc. etc.

     

     


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