CP PLUS Fine

OW1988

Hi All, 
I recently got the classic CP PLUS letter from overstaying at a service station by 44 mins. I have been reading online to contest this. 
They sent me one letter and I ignored this, then the 'fine' has now gone from 100 to 140.00 Pounds, 
I was going to send them an online appeal now. From the newbie post is this the right letter? 
Or shall I just keep ignoring them? 

Re PCN number:

I dispute your 'parking charge', as the keeper of the vehicle. I deny any liability or contractual agreement and I will be making a formal complaint about your predatory conduct to your client landowner and to my MP.

There will be no admissions as to who was driving and no assumptions can be drawn. Since your PCN is a vague template, I require ALL photos taken and an explanation of the allegation and your evidence, i.e.:

- If the allegation concerns a PDT machine, the data supplied in response to this appeal must include the record of payments made - showing partial VRNs - and an explanation of the reason for the PCN, because your Notice does not explain it.

- If the allegation involves an alleged overstay of minutes, your evidence must include the actual grace period agreed by the landowner. If you fail to evidence the actual grace period that applies at this site or suggest that only one period applies, this will be disregarded as an attempt to mislead. In the absence of evidence, it will be reasonably taken to be a minimum of twenty minutes (ten on arrival and ten after parking time) in accordance with the official BPA article by Kelvin Reynolds about 'observation periods' on arrival being additional and separate to a 'grace period' at the end.

- in all cases, you must include a close up actual photograph of the sign you contend was at the location on the material date.

Formal note:
Should you later pursue this charge by way of litigation, note that service of any legal documents by email is expressly disallowed and you are not entitled to assume that the data in this dispute/appeal remains the current address for service in the future.

Yours faithfully,

Redx

You should have used that blue text appeal in response to the first postal letter , not ignored them

You can still try , but I fear it's too late due to the £140 letter , meaning that I think that you have missed the appeal deadline but do so regardless

A complaint to the MSA , plan A in the newbies FAQ sticky thread near the top of the forum should also be done too

OW1988

I have read in a few places to ignore this as its a scam not a fine its more of an invoice I will try and appeal this. 

Redx

It's not a sc#m , they could take you to court , thousands of court claims are issued every year

It is an invoice , so they can take you to civil court for not paying it , same as if a builder invoiced you and you did not pay. They all have 6 years to issue a court claim pack from the CCBC in Northampton

You asked for advice and were given it , the rest is up to you

OW1988

All I am reading on here is the complaints and how CP PLUS is a scam? Am i missing something? They all seem to win their cases too? I have sent an appeal to them. 

Redx

I have seen no comments on here by knowledgeable members about it being a sc#m in over 7 years of coming here

Some of the debt collector letters and iffy legals could be sc#ms , but not the parking company PCN invoices

If you can show us where anyone says c p plus PCN,s are a sc#m , we can refute them

But if you prefer court like the hundreds of other threads on here , go your own path , we can only advise you and you are disrespecting my input

OW1988

So whats the best course of action them? I am new to this? jUst pay the 140.00 appeal it? 

Redx

I already told you the best course of actions , complain and appeal , 2 actions

The decision to pay or not is yours to make , not ours

One reason that nobody else has replied is they have read my replies , know they are correct and have nothing to add

OW1988

Thank you I have sent the template above from the newbies section and see what they say. Do you know the timeframe on this? 

thanks

Redx

I believe that they are a BPA member so the BPA CoP has always specified 35 days , but you could download the 2020 version and check if you like

If they reject your appeal and don't provide a Popla code , then it will be that you appealed too late , but in all cases a landowner complaint is the best resolution for Moto and other MSA,s , so that is still your best remedy , it always is , it's plan A in that newbies FAQ sticky thread

OW1988

Thanks for your help, It is bad especially if drivers stop to rest. Hopefully, it is not too late. I have been reading and a lot of people on here seemed to have succes with CP PLUS