congestion charge and ULEZ?

darto150

Hi
I understand that Vauxhall Bridge Road is outside the congestion charge zone, but it's a hazard because going south, if you turn left, you go into the congestion charge zone.? or ULEZ zone?
If you have an ultra low emission car, then is that exempt from congestion charge?
I'm kind of confused on the difference between congestion charge zone and ULEZ zone. 
Does introduction of ULEZ mean that lots of cars(meeting the standard), can drive in the congestion charge area and don't have to pay congestion charge?
So the govt is taking much less money from people, from the congestion charge zone, now than before?
Thanks

unforeseen

It's actually Sadiq & TFL that get the money, not the government

AdrianC

darto150 said:

I understand that Vauxhall Bridge Road is outside the congestion charge zone, but it's a hazard because going south, if you turn left, you go into the congestion charge zone.? or ULEZ zone?

They're the same area currently.

If you have an ultra low emission car, then is that exempt from congestion charge?

No.

I'm kind of confused on the difference between congestion charge zone and ULEZ zone.

Simples.

Congestion Charge is a fee for driving in the area at all, M-F, 7am-10pm
There are some exemptions - https://tfl.gov.uk/modes/driving/congestion-charge/discounts-and-exemptions

ULEZ is a totally separate fee for driving in the area with a car that doesn't meet the emission standards. Euro4 petrol, Euro6 diesel, over 40yo historic. 24x7

Next autumn, it'll become more obvious, because the ULEZ is going to apply as far out as the circulars.

DerektheDonkey

AdrianC said:

darto150 said:

I understand that Vauxhall Bridge Road is outside the congestion charge zone, but it's a hazard because going south, if you turn left, you go into the congestion charge zone.? or ULEZ zone?

They're the same area currently.

If you have an ultra low emission car, then is that exempt from congestion charge?

No.

I'm kind of confused on the difference between congestion charge zone and ULEZ zone.

Simples.

Congestion Charge is a fee for driving in the area at all, M-F, 7am-10pm
There are some exemptions - https://tfl.gov.uk/modes/driving/congestion-charge/discounts-and-exemptions

ULEZ is a totally separate fee for driving in the area with a car that doesn't meet the emission standards. Euro4 petrol, Euro6 diesel, over 40yo historic. 24x7

Next autumn, it'll become more obvious, because the ULEZ is going to apply as far out as the circulars.

More than happy to be corrected but it is my understanding that since June 2020 the Congestion Charge is payable at weekends too, the only day off each year is xmas day.

AdrianC

DerektheDonkey said:

AdrianC said:

Congestion Charge is a fee for driving in the area at all, M-F, 7am-10pm
There are some exemptions - https://tfl.gov.uk/modes/driving/congestion-charge/discounts-and-exemptions

More than happy to be corrected but it is my understanding that since June 2020 the Congestion Charge is payable at weekends too, the only day off each year is xmas day.

You're right...
 https://tfl.gov.uk/modes/driving/congestion-charge

darto150

Is there a way that I can check if they got me in the congestion charge? so I don't pay if I wasn't in the zone?  
I was out Sat evening.  I might have driven a few hundred feet into a road that was congestion charge., and parked there.
Thanks

AdrianC

darto150 said:

Is there a way that I can check if they got me in the congestion charge? so I don't pay if I wasn't in the zone?  
I was out Sat evening.  I might have driven a few hundred feet into a road that was congestion charge., and parked there.

You cannot miss the signage at every single entrance to the zone.

Scrapit

darto150 said:

Is there a way that I can check if they got me in the congestion charge? so I don't pay if I wasn't in the zone?  
I was out Sat evening.  I might have driven a few hundred feet into a road that was congestion charge., and parked there.
Thanks

Thats down to you. Its impossible not to realise. I suspect you did from your description above so you'd be best off paying.

darto150

It's not "impossible not to realise".  I have a mental condition, or various mental conditions. and I don't realise certain things.  And besides that, not everybody is as brilliant as you or as brilliant as the average person at realising certain things.
You seem to be telling me there's no way to check,  I don't think that's correct.  
Their phone lines open on monday, though that is two days after I potentially breached the congestion charge. So i'm not sure if I would have to pay more if I wait till monday to call them. 
I spoke to a member of the family that had gone into the congestion charge sometimes, and they thought that if you go to the website and enter your car registration then if you went into the congestion charge zone, it would say you owe something. So they think I must have not breached the congestion charge zone, because the website doesn't say I owe anything, as far as we could see, on the website.

Scrapit

darto150 said:

It's not "impossible not to realise".  I have a mental condition, or various mental conditions. and I don't realise certain things.  And besides that, not everybody is as brilliant as you or as brilliant as the average person at realising certain things.
You seem to be telling me there's no way to check,  I don't think that's correct.  
Their phone lines open on monday, though that is two days after I potentially breached the congestion charge. So i'm not sure if I would have to pay more if I wait till monday to call them. 
I spoke to a member of the family that had gone into the congestion charge sometimes, and they thought that if you go to the website and enter your car registration then if you went into the congestion charge zone, it would say you owe something. So they think I must have not breached the congestion charge zone, because the website doesn't say I owe anything, as far as we could see, on the website.

Let me be clear.
It is absolutely impossible not to know. Absolutely. 

You think you went in, chances are you went in. However the tfl page is quite clear about the charges although the term charging day is possibly a little confusing.
https://tfl.gov.uk/modes/driving/congestion-charge/paying-the-congestion-charge
So if you went in Saturday you need to pay £17.50, I'd presume by close of play Tuesday. But if you confident you can check let us know how that pans out.

AdrianC

darto150 said:

It's not "impossible not to realise".  I have a mental condition, or various mental conditions. and I don't realise certain things.  And besides that, not everybody is as brilliant as you or as brilliant as the average person at realising certain things.

While I don't wish to downplay your conditions in any way, if they're so serious that you cannot notice signage as blatant as this, are you sure you are fit to drive?


No, the website doesn't "tell you if you've been spotted". If it did, everybody would check in the hope they'd got away with it.