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Port of Wells - CEL Parking Charge Notice

Hi
I received a Parking Charge Notice from Civil Enforcement Ltd. in the post, referencing "Payment not made in accordance with terms displayed on signage".
I am about to appeal online, using the one size fits all template.
Should I include reference to the car park in question not being on "relevant land", as per POPA 2012, Schedule 4, Paragraph 3(1)(c)? 
If so, am I best off obtaining confirmation of this from Wells Harbour Commissioners and/or Wells-next-the-Sea council independently, rather than relying on, for example, the confirmation received by Deepod back in February?:
 ("Can I confirm that the land is under statutory control, with regard to the  Wells Harbour Revision Order 1994, which is a UK Statutory Instrument."
Their reply "The land belonging to the Wells Harbour Commissioners is under the revision order yes.")
Would the car park also fall under Para 3(1)(b): "
a parking place which is provided or controlled by a traffic authority".
Many thanks.

Comments

  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 154,736 Forumite
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    edited 9 September 2020 at 1:29PM
    No need to get that for this stage.  Get it before POPLA.

    Please now make a real difference - A TASK FOR SEPTEMBER.

    The Government is (this month only) consulting about a new statutory code of practice (CoP) and framework to rein in the rogue parking firms.  Read and comment on the draft CoP proposal and the enforcement framework consultation, and get everyone you know to do the same.

    You will need to register to comment on the CoP and enter an occupation even if you are retired or a homemaker, but otherwise it is easy to navigate, and comment upon each section/subsection individually. You can save comments to edit later and or submit comments once you are happy with them.

    https://standardsdevelopment.bsigroup.com/projects/2020-00193#/section

    You do not need to register to comment on the enforcement framework which can be found here. It has a link on page 5 to make comments.

    https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/913272/Code_Enforcement_Framework_consultation.pdf

    At the very least, we say the parking charge level should be £50/£25 or higher level £70/£35, as per Council PCNs in E&W.  

    And we say the added fake 'debt recovery' costs are just double counting the cost of letters, and MUST GO because that is unfair and illegal.

    Please be heard.  You can bet the hundreds of PPCs will be commenting.

    No apologies for repeating this vital 'call for action' to consumers, on every thread this month!


    PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
    CLICK at the top or bottom of any page where it says:
    Home»Motoring»Parking Tickets Fines & Parking - read the NEWBIES THREAD
  • pwl
    pwl Posts: 100 Forumite
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    Thanks, so just the standard template, no alterations?
  • KeithP
    KeithP Posts: 41,296 Forumite
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    pwl said:
    Thanks, so just the standard template, no alterations?
    Yes.
  • pwl
    pwl Posts: 100 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10 Posts Combo Breaker
    Perfect, thanks.
  • pwl
    pwl Posts: 100 Forumite
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    Delighted, if not a tad surprised, to receive the following from CEL this morning:
    "We now confirm that this Notice has been cancelled".
    Extremely grateful to Coupon-mad and KeithP and the invaluable template, thank you.
  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 154,736 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Photogenic
    No need to get that for this stage.  Get it before POPLA.

    Please now make a real difference - A TASK FOR SEPTEMBER.

    The Government is (this month only) consulting about a new statutory code of practice (CoP) and framework to rein in the rogue parking firms.  Read and comment on the draft CoP proposal and the enforcement framework consultation, and get everyone you know to do the same.

    You will need to register to comment on the CoP and enter an occupation even if you are retired or a homemaker, but otherwise it is easy to navigate, and comment upon each section/subsection individually. You can save comments to edit later and or submit comments once you are happy with them.

    https://standardsdevelopment.bsigroup.com/projects/2020-00193#/section

    You do not need to register to comment on the enforcement framework which can be found here. It has a link on page 5 to make comments.

    https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/913272/Code_Enforcement_Framework_consultation.pdf

    At the very least, we say the parking charge level should be £50/£25 or higher level £70/£35, as per Council PCNs in E&W.  

    And we say the added fake 'debt recovery' costs are just double counting the cost of letters, and MUST GO because that is unfair and illegal.

    Please be heard.  You can bet the hundreds of PPCs will be commenting.

    No apologies for repeating this vital 'call for action' to consumers, on every thread this month!


    Great news, now please please please please ...get ALL your family to separately respond to the above two vital consulatations!
    PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
    CLICK at the top or bottom of any page where it says:
    Home»Motoring»Parking Tickets Fines & Parking - read the NEWBIES THREAD
  • D_P_Dance
    D_P_Dance Posts: 11,592 Forumite
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    They have easted you time, now waste some of theirs, read this.

    https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/law-and-courts/legal-system/small-claims/making-a-small-claim/
    You never know how far you can go until you go too far.
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