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First time on PAYG in years, 1st day readings seem double what I expect.

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  • Sorry for lack of updates I decided to let it run,
    As of today and not ran heating or washing machine once, had 7 showers averaging 10 minutes each and running a computer and monitor about 9 hours a day I have used £16.09
    I was away for 30 hours and noticed my usage only lessened by about 50p in that time and uses about £2.20-£2.40 a day normally.
    Standing charge is £2 per week
    rates are 17.40 kwh
    No debt on meter
    Gas supplied by Boost.

    My fridge is a large one about 5 feet tall and freezer is a 20 year + old garage style chest freezer, fridge set to low freezer set to mid.
    I only used hob once for 10 minutes to cook pasta, and mostly been living off sandwiches so not even microwave has been used much, I have boiled a kettle no more than 5 times.

    Usage seems excessive when a friend up the road uses about £7-9 per week, only difference being he has a small fridge and no freezer and a relative uses exactly same as friend for a similar sized property, and again just a small fridge and no freezer.

    Where is the usage going? It can't be on the freezer can it?
  • Gerry1
    Gerry1 Posts: 10,848 Forumite
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    edited 13 September 2020 at 6:13PM
    You've completely ignored all the advice you've been given, and you're on two dreadfully expensive tariffs.
    It's hardly surprising that it's costing you a fortune and will continue to so if you don't find out the facts and start investigating methodically.
    You need to switch to a credit meter and to find competitive tariffs.
    That said, £16.09 for a day's electricity in September electricity does seem excessive.  Have you done the basic sanity tests, e.g. switching off at the meters and making sure that no appliances work, then leaving the meters for a couple of hours or overnight, making sure the readings don't change and that the red LED on the electricity meter doesn't flash? The problem won't resolve itself, you'll have to tackle it.
    [/rant]
  • MWT
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    You are still using ££ to compare, it would be a lot easier to help if you would just read the meter on a daily basis for a few days and then we could work with the actual consumption in terms of kWh...
    Same goes for comparing with your friend...
    However it looks like you are using around 11kWh a day.
    If your freezer is 20 years old it could well be running the compressor 24/7 to compensate for lost gas in the cooling loop or just simply having the heat exchanger blocked with dust built up over that time. Worth taking a look and a listen to see if it is running to often...
  • Gerry1
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    edited 13 September 2020 at 6:37PM
    As previously asked, are you using electricity for hot water and the shower?  If so, you're spending 17.4p per kWh instead of less than 3p per kWh for gas.
    I bet you buy your petrol on the motorway at 159.9p/litre ! 
  • happyhappyjoy
    happyhappyjoy Posts: 10 Forumite
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    edited 13 September 2020 at 6:56PM
    Gerry1 said:
    You've completely ignored all the advice you've been given, and you're on two dreadfully expensive tariffs.
    It's hardly surprising that it's costing you a fortune and will continue to so if you don't find out the facts and start investigating methodically.
    You need to switch to a credit meter and to find competitive tariffs.
    That said, £16.09 for a day's electricity in September electricity does seem excessive.  Have you done the basic sanity tests, e.g. switching off at the meters and making sure that no appliances work, then leaving the meters for a couple of hours or overnight, making sure the readings don't change and that the red LED on the electricity meter doesn't flash? The problem won't resolve itself, you'll have to tackle it.
    [/rant]
    Actually I haven't, I checked every day and changed to Bulb but that will take a few weeks to go through.
    I was using about £2.20-£2.40 on the days I was here and about £1.80 on the day I wasn't.
    I also noticed that the red usage led was flashing every 20 seconds or so and when using the shower it used 18p I think for about 10 minutes in the shower, then for a hour or so after the usage on meter didn't change.
    For the chest freezer its a tight squeeze in, theres only 1-2 inches at side where the vent/fan is.
    I do have tv on bedroom plugged in but not switched off so the led's are on standby.
    I also have a modern wifi printer.
    I have my main cooker which all the dials are off but the cooker control switch is always on.
    The microwave has a time display on it.
    The boiler is 2 years old, its a gas boiler I'm assuing its not that also, it takes about a minute for water to heat when putting hot tap on but does come out boiling hot.
    Apart from a clock radio that I have in bedroom nothing else is plugged in that I can think of and my desktop despite being a modern gaming machine I mostly right now watch streaming on it so no gaming.
    EDIT : The shower is Electric but hot water is gas.
  • Gerry1
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    There's really no hope for you.  You persist in refusing to note your kWh consumption, you choose to have umpteen expensive electric showers at five times what they would cost with gas, and you've switched to Bulb (still pre-pay?), who are an expensive supplier.
  • Gerry1 said:
    There's really no hope for you.  You persist in refusing to note your kWh consumption, you choose to have umpteen expensive electric showers at five times what they would cost with gas, and you've switched to Bulb (still pre-pay?), who are an expensive supplier.
    Rude, first I am autistic and I don't know how to do kWh consumption check, upteen expensive showers? 10 minutes a day is a lot of showers? factoring in I shave at same time and Im a larger gentleman.
    And I am in social housing hence pre pay meters.
    Are you saying check meter every hour? I can do that but I am forgetful its part of my autism hence why I was checking each day and after a shower.

  • Gerry1
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    edited 13 September 2020 at 8:48PM
    I didn't intend to offend, but you didn't say you were autistic so I had no way of knowing.
    It would be worth talking to your housing association to see whether you can switch to an ordinary credit meter or, more realistically, one that can be switched between modes so that it can be left in pre-pay when you move out. It seems that modern pre-pay meters can be switched from pre-pay to credit, and vice versa.
    Pre-payment tariffs are always expensive so are best avoided.  Most companies require you to pass a credit check before having a credit meter, but EDF don't.
    You can read the electricity consumption in kWh directly from the meters on the wall.  Presumably your problem is with electricity consumption, but gas consumption in kWh can also be read from the meter.  There's an extra step because the meter measures in cubic feet or cubic metres, so it has to be converted to kWh.  This site will do the conversion for you.
    Hot water and room heating are the biggest users, so taking readings two or three time per day (or even hourly at first) will soon give you an understanding of what's happening and what's causing any high usage.
    Post a photo of the meter(s) on the wall if you don't know how to work them and someone will tell you which buttons to press.
    • I read your earlier post as being 7 showers and  £16.40 in a one day.  If it's a longer time frame then the cost isn't so excessive and the meter is less likely to be faulty.  But you still need to use gas to heat the water, not full price electricity, that will always be stupidly expensive.
  • There was another reading I think might be the consumption 368.68 in section G, its a regular key meter.
    The Gas meter has its own amount.
  • Strange, yesterday I decided to look at meter, turned all trip switches off to see if red led still went, didn't notice it and so put it back on.

    That was lunchtime yesterday, since then I have used a kettle twice, used washing machine, had 2 showers yet have used about £1.
    I can still post a photo if needed.

    I thought I would just live with it, im swamped at work so was going to check my days but the new amount seems correct to me.
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