What is classed as 'emergency dental work'?

onwards&upwards

Gers said:

onwards&upwards said:

brook2jack2 said:

Besides which my own personal experience is there are many restrictions to doing complex microsurgery in PPE , visualising and accessing the mouth is physical and mentally difficult at the best of times , wearing PPE for aerosol procedures plus loupes etc is extremely physically and mentally tiring , by the end of an hour session you are at your absolute physical and mental limits . You then have to decontaminate and go straight into seeing another patient and this , for most dentists , for ten hour days to try to catch up with outstanding treatment, day in, day out. 

Gosh I wonder how those staff on ICUs and respiratory wards have coped for the last 6 months!!  I suppose at least they didn't also have to cope with looking after multiple patients at once, managing the ventilators and all the other devices, their patients dying on a regular basis, communicating with family members and loved ones unable to visit even in the final hours and so on.

Oh wait... 

Honestly, dentists can cry me a river.  They really need to start stepping up somehow and actually providing an acceptable level of care again, they are healthcare professionals providing an absolutely vital and occasionally lifesaving service.  

Dentists would love to 'get over themselves' and work normally again. 

I see zero evidence of that.  If just one dentist acknowledged that some of the people they have a duty of care for WILL come to harm because of this, I would have a bit more respect for them. 

brook2jack2

https://bda.org/news-centre/blog/Pages/Coronavirus--Five-things-you-need-to-know-about-the-future-of-dentistry.aspx

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brook2jack2 said:

I'm not sure , given the regulations that dentists have to work under , what more they can do to step up. 

Plenty aren’t even doing any AGPs or any care at all except extractions or bunging  antibiotics at people through a window.  I think they can do a lot more.  

Are you not consumed with worry for your vulnerable patients?  Or are you private so don’t have any?

brook2jack2

I'll repeat the link above , in case you haven't read it https://bda.org/news-centre/blog/Pages/Coronavirus--Five-things-you-need-to-know-about-the-future-of-dentistry.aspx

Gers

onwards&upwards said:

brook2jack2 said:

I'm not sure , given the regulations that dentists have to work under , what more they can do to step up. 

Plenty aren’t even doing any AGPs or any care at all except extractions or bunging  antibiotics at people through a window.  I think they can do a lot more.  

Are you not consumed with worry for your vulnerable patients?  Or are you private so don’t have any?

Grief!  Still intransigent and lacking comprehension of the facts and no empathy for anyone involved.  Now I think that we are p***ing into the wind talking to you.  You have an agenda and won't move from it.

Dentists are not allowed to undertake AGP for the NHS right now. I hope that you understand the term 'not allowed', nowhere near can't be bothered or chose not too.  Get back to reality!

No more from me as we are all clearly p***ing in the wind. 

onwards&upwards

I have plenty of empathy for people who will lose teeth they didn’t need to lose, or who will suffer complications from dental infections, or who will have their mouth cancer go undetected. 

Do you?  Does Brook2Jack?  I haven’t seen any and that’s what really worries me.  Every response is just all about you, no thought for the people you care for.

Gers

onwards&upwards said:

I have plenty of empathy for people who will lose teeth they didn’t need to lose, or who will suffer complications from dental infections, or who will have their mouth cancer go undetected. 

Do you?  Does Brook2Jack?  I haven’t seen any and that’s what really worries me.  Every response is just all about you, no thought for the people you care for.

Dentists are not allowed to undertake AGP for the NHS right now. I hope that you understand the term 'not allowed', nowhere near can't be bothered or chose not to.

Gers

Great article from The Times last week! 

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Gers said:

onwards&upwards said:

I have plenty of empathy for people who will lose teeth they didn’t need to lose, or who will suffer complications from dental infections, or who will have their mouth cancer go undetected. 

Do you?  Does Brook2Jack?  I haven’t seen any and that’s what really worries me.  Every response is just all about you, no thought for the people you care for.

Dentists are not allowed to undertake AGP for the NHS right now. I hope that you understand the term 'not allowed', nowhere near can't be bothered or chose not to.

How do you feel about that?  Do you agree with it.

Gers

onwards&upwards said:

Gers said:

onwards&upwards said:

I have plenty of empathy for people who will lose teeth they didn’t need to lose, or who will suffer complications from dental infections, or who will have their mouth cancer go undetected. 

Do you?  Does Brook2Jack?  I haven’t seen any and that’s what really worries me.  Every response is just all about you, no thought for the people you care for.

Dentists are not allowed to undertake AGP for the NHS right now. I hope that you understand the term 'not allowed', nowhere near can't be bothered or chose not to.

How do you feel about that?  Do you agree with it.

What I feel is irrelevant.  If I agree with it or not is irrelevant.  It's statutory.