Unpaid leave

TELLIT01

CocoM2020 said:

I thought they were asking about parental leave which is unpaid but can be refused? 

Yes.  My mistake, I read it as maternity/paternity leave.  As others have said, lying about needing leave for a specific purpose and then swanning off on holiday is probably not a career enhancing move.

naf123

Hi 
I meant paternal leave . Thanks for clarifying .

I only need an extra 2/3 days a year to meet those family requirements so that kids can spend time with their grandparents abroad . 
If employer is being difficult with some unpaid leave ,how difficult is it to claim paternal leave ?

theoretica

As the link above states, this is one of the examples that parental leave can be used for - heading off on holiday without the child wouldn't be!  However, your employer needs to agree to the dates.

naf123

Can an employer in theory refuse paternal leave indefinitely if they had to agree to the dates ? I suppose the trick is asking for it like 6 months in advance...

oh_really

Since its unpaid anyway why not ask for a weeks unpaid leave?

naf123

For some reason,some employers don't like unpaid leave ....

jackieblack

naf123 said:

For some reason,some employers don't like unpaid leave ....

If they’ve got work they need you to do, they need you there to do it, that’s why you have a job.
However, if they can manage nicely without you being there, you might find that they realise they don’t need you at all! (Especially in the current climate)

jackieblack

naf123 said:

Hi 
I meant paternal leave . Thanks for clarifying .

I only need an extra 2/3 days a year to meet those family requirements so that kids can spend time with their grandparents abroad . 
If employer is being difficult with some unpaid leave ,how difficult is it to claim paternal leave ?

Parental, not paternal.
(If you’re going to ask, you need to ask for the right thing.)

TELLIT01

naf123 said:

Hi 
I meant paternal leave . Thanks for clarifying .

I only need an extra 2/3 days a year to meet those family requirements so that kids can spend time with their grandparents abroad . 
If employer is being difficult with some unpaid leave ,how difficult is it to claim paternal leave ?

Lots of people don't get enough holiday to do everything they want to.  Maybe you need to take another look at your holiday priorities and put a visit to grandparents higher up that list and do without something else.  An employer refusing unpaid leave isn't being difficult, they are simply expecting an employee to fulfil their half of the employment bargain.

Savvy_Sue

One thing to bear in mind is that employers may ask whether you intend to go abroad for any period of leave you book. Let's not get hung up on the legality of this, what you do in your own time is up to you etc, BUT as my manager explained to me, they need to know whether at the end of your booked leave you will DEFINITELY be back in work or POSSIBLY needing to quarantine. 

Obviously I don't know what the OP's work situation is: my manager is fine if I need to quarantine, I can WFH (mostly), but if several of us book consecutive weeks and go abroad, we'll be in deep doodah if we then have to stay home for consecutive quarantine periods.