Employer error

Happynotme

I had accepted a role with a new company whilst working my resignation the new company made an error and informed HMRC that I had in fact started the new role which then changed my tax codes I did not realise this until I was paid by the new company and my existing one when I immediately informed the new company of their error informing them that I woukd return the money they had paid and asking them to inform HMRC of their error although they have received the money they have still not informed HMRC of their error and have run their next payroll shoeing the return of the money however as this was after tax it continues to show that I work fir their company and continues to iver tax me on my only source of income as this was their error should they not have sorted this and how will I get the over payments of tax back 

MalMonroe

This is all a bit confusing. Are you actually working now?  Surely you will have to pay tax, whoever you work for? (Unless you don't earn enough.)

How can the new place have paid you already, when you usually have to wait until you've finished at the old place before you get your P45, which you then give to your new employer so they can put you on their payroll? The new employer needs your P45 before they can pay you.

Normally when you leave a job you get a P45, which is in four parts.

• Part 1. Your employer sends this to HMRC.
• Part 1A. A copy of part 1 that’s for you to keep.
• Part 2 and 3. These are for your new employer.

So the old employer will tell HMRC you've left, and then the new employer tells them you've started with them.

You might need to contact HMRC yourself.  You WILL get any overpayment back but may have to wait a while. You can also register online with HMRC. 

Marcon

Happynotme said:

I had accepted a role with a new company whilst working my resignation the new company made an error and informed HMRC that I had in fact started the new role which then changed my tax codes I did not realise this until I was paid by the new company and my existing one when I immediately informed the new company of their error informing them that I woukd return the money they had paid and asking them to inform HMRC of their error although they have received the money they have still not informed HMRC of their error and have run their next payroll shoeing the return of the money however as this was after tax it continues to show that I work fir their company and continues to iver tax me on my only source of income as this was their error should they not have sorted this and how will I get the over payments of tax back 

Your post is hopelessly confusing, not least because there is no punctuation to help the hapless reader!

Presumably your 'new' employer has paid you if they think you are already on the books? If so, they need to deduct this overpayment from your next salary payment. That should also regularise the tax position if they do it correctly.

AskAsk

as others have said, no idea what you are talking about. 
why have you paid the new company back?

Undervalued

MalMonroe said:

This is all a bit confusing. Are you actually working now?  Surely you will have to pay tax, whoever you work for? (Unless you don't earn enough.)

How can the new place have paid you already, when you usually have to wait until you've finished at the old place before you get your P45, which you then give to your new employer so they can put you on their payroll? The new employer needs your P45 before they can pay you.

Normally when you leave a job you get a P45, which is in four parts.

• Part 1. Your employer sends this to HMRC.
• Part 1A. A copy of part 1 that’s for you to keep.
• Part 2 and 3. These are for your new employer.

So the old employer will tell HMRC you've left, and then the new employer tells them you've started with them.

You might need to contact HMRC yourself.  You WILL get any overpayment back but may have to wait a while. You can also register online with HMRC. 

No they don't!

Yes it is best to have it so that there is more chance of the tax being correct. However they can perfectly well pay using an emergency tax code leaving the employee to claim any excess tax back (or wait for it to correct itself when a correct tax code is sorted out).

Alternatively the employee can fill out what used to be called a P46. From memory it is now called something like a "new starter's pack".

Savvy_Sue

Agree with Undervalued. People have overlaps in employment all the time. Employers can take at least a month to issue P45. New employer does not need it in order to add a new employer to the payroll. 

General_Grant

OP - you should not have returned the money received but simply notified them of the error and saying that the gross amount can be deducted from the gross amount paid to you in due course.  The tax will sort itself out once they have the P45.

If that hasn't been received to be handed over to them by the next pay run, you complete the New Starter Form.  

Did you return the money by way of a cheque?  If so, has it cleared through your account?