Ford Fiesta engine

Alanp

I’m on my third car with an eco boost engine, and so far have had no engine related problems, the initial problem was with the degas pipes failing and losing the engine coolant, then it would overheat and lunch the engine, ford replaced complete engines in some cases ( albeit after quite a battle) , so if it’s looked after it should be like any other car
i usually see 45/ 50 mpg , and up to 60 mpg on a long run, but then again I don’t thrash them 

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I can see big problems with a lot of these engines with turbos when they get leggy mileage. 

fred246

Well you have got an engine with 25 years history of being ultra reliable Vs one with all sorts of disasters going on. If the OP kept the last car for 16 years you would expect they are looking for another reliable car to keep. Seems pretty obvious which one to go for.

Goudy

I wouldn't discount the Mazda 2 with the normally aspirated 1.5 engine, it's almost a clone of the fiesta.

Mazda have been quite clever with their engines, where everyone else has been downsizing and turbo charging, they've been refining their NA engines and have ended up with some larger, but still efficient/low emission engines that you don't have to flog to death. 
I seem to think all RHD's are made in Japan, so should be built pretty well.

They weren't big on the fleet scene so there's more chance of avoiding the dross.
 

cpembroke

Ford B-Max Ecoboost Engine Failure
We assisted our son in buying a second-hand Ford B-Max Titanium Turbo, fitted with 998cc Eco Boost engine, in June 2018 from a Ford garage. We considered it an ideal car for him and his two sons. It had had one previous owner with less than 13,000 miles on the clock. On its V5, it was declared as new, at first registration, on 31/03/2016.

Recently, when my son was driving the car, on the busy A331 Blackwater relief road, when it started slowing down but with no warning indication.  As there was no nearby pull over area, he pulled off, at the junction, and stopped. At this point smoke was coming from under the bonnet and out of the exhaust. Our son called out his recovery service who took him to local Ford Garage in Farnborough.

Garage advised that the engine failed, parts having fired out inside the engine, stopping the 3 cylinders. A new engine would be required at a cost of £6000. This was not considered, by us, as economically viable.

Having spoken to the garage, near Christchurch, where the car was originally purchase, we were advised to contact Ford One Stop.  Our son did this, but they advised that no help could be given due to him having failed to have the car regularly serviced at a Ford garage.

To my mind for a 41/2-year-old car’s engine to fail in this drastic manner is due to a design fault rather than lack of maintenance that would not have picked up on this type of internal failure.  Having checked the internet I found there had been several failures of these engines, for other reasons, and Ford eventually took responsibility for cost of repairs, including those which owners had already paid for.

In light of these previous problems do you feel it would be of benefit to take this up with BBC Watchdog in light of BBC having played a major role in getting Ford to pay up back in 2018.

Grumpy_chap

cpembroke said:

Ford B-Max Ecoboost Engine Failure
We assisted our son in buying a second-hand Ford B-Max Titanium Turbo, fitted with 998cc Eco Boost engine, in June 2018 from a Ford garage. We considered it an ideal car for him and his two sons. It had had one previous owner with less than 13,000 miles on the clock. On its V5, it was declared as new, at first registration, on 31/03/2016.

Recently, when my son was driving the car, on the busy A331 Blackwater relief road, when it started slowing down but with no warning indication.  As there was no nearby pull over area, he pulled off, at the junction, and stopped. At this point smoke was coming from under the bonnet and out of the exhaust. Our son called out his recovery service who took him to local Ford Garage in Farnborough.

Garage advised that the engine failed, parts having fired out inside the engine, stopping the 3 cylinders. A new engine would be required at a cost of £6000. This was not considered, by us, as economically viable.

Having spoken to the garage, near Christchurch, where the car was originally purchase, we were advised to contact Ford One Stop.  Our son did this, but they advised that no help could be given due to him having failed to have the car regularly serviced at a Ford garage.

To my mind for a 41/2-year-old car’s engine to fail in this drastic manner is due to a design fault rather than lack of maintenance that would not have picked up on this type of internal failure.  Having checked the internet I found there had been several failures of these engines, for other reasons, and Ford eventually took responsibility for cost of repairs, including those which owners had already paid for.

In light of these previous problems do you feel it would be of benefit to take this up with BBC Watchdog in light of BBC having played a major role in getting Ford to pay up back in 2018.

This would be better as a new thread and will need more information.  As written, it reads that you bought a 2yo car 2.1/2 years ago, never had it serviced and now, ? miles later it broke.  What was the root cause of the engine failure?

AdrianC

...with added "It started playing up, but he continued to drive for a bit".

NBLondon

noclaf said:

I'm not an Ecoboost fan either...I'd be concerned that the type of driving I do (mainly town stop start and low miles) over a long period would stress small 1.0 engine.

That seems odd to me - that would be a common usage pattern for a 1.0 Fiesta. I'd expect continued high speed / high load use to be the issue. There may be more knowledgeable readers who will tell me why though...

I have the 1.6 EcoBoost in a Mk3 Focus; all recalls done and never an issue. I'd swap that for the new 1.5 with no qualms, I probably wouldn't go down to the 1.0 in Focus body but that's because I do motorway miles as well as town.

Which gives me a question for the OP. Are you in Croydon or in rural Surrey? Do you drive local or on the M25? That might be a factor in the relative performance and consumption between a newer EcoBoost 1.0 and the old faithful 1242cc which has been around since the 90s under various names.

mattyprice4004

There are issues with the 1.0, however I wouldn't let it put me off - I've had many high-mileage turbocharged engines and not had any major issues.
To name a few - a 300,000 mile BMW 330d, a 200,000 mile Rover 620ti and currently in a 196,000 mile BMW 530d.
Turbocharging an engine (even a small one) doesn't necessarily mean early failure will occur, but the 1.0 does have issues with the degas pipe mentioned which you need to make sure are resolved.

cpembroke

Grumpy_chap said:

cpembroke said:

Ford B-Max Ecoboost Engine Failure
We assisted our son in buying a second-hand Ford B-Max Titanium Turbo, fitted with 998cc Eco Boost engine, in June 2018 from a Ford garage. We considered it an ideal car for him and his two sons. It had had one previous owner with less than 13,000 miles on the clock. On its V5, it was declared as new, at first registration, on 31/03/2016.

Recently, when my son was driving the car, on the busy A331 Blackwater relief road, when it started slowing down but with no warning indication.  As there was no nearby pull over area, he pulled off, at the junction, and stopped. At this point smoke was coming from under the bonnet and out of the exhaust. Our son called out his recovery service who took him to local Ford Garage in Farnborough.

Garage advised that the engine failed, parts having fired out inside the engine, stopping the 3 cylinders. A new engine would be required at a cost of £6000. This was not considered, by us, as economically viable.

Having spoken to the garage, near Christchurch, where the car was originally purchase, we were advised to contact Ford One Stop.  Our son did this, but they advised that no help could be given due to him having failed to have the car regularly serviced at a Ford garage.

To my mind for a 41/2-year-old car’s engine to fail in this drastic manner is due to a design fault rather than lack of maintenance that would not have picked up on this type of internal failure.  Having checked the internet I found there had been several failures of these engines, for other reasons, and Ford eventually took responsibility for cost of repairs, including those which owners had already paid for.

In light of these previous problems do you feel it would be of benefit to take this up with BBC Watchdog in light of BBC having played a major role in getting Ford to pay up back in 2018.

This would be better as a new thread and will need more information.  As written, it reads that you bought a 2yo car 2.1/2 years ago, never had it serviced and now, ? miles later it broke.  What was the root cause of the engine failure?

How do I make this a  new thread?