Shared drive with neighbours - Am I not allowed to block my own half of the drive?

RobM99

Reverse the situation, would you be happy?

Vestraun

You shouldn't park on a pavement, please consider people that can't just simply step of the pavement to get around. 

MoneySeeker1

Stenwold said:

If the dropped kerb runs the whole width of the shared drive, then I'm on your neighbours side. Irrespective of the legal aspect of whether you should treat the whole entrance to the drive as shared - the neighbour has no choice but to enter/exit on your side due to the lampost being there. Deliberately blocking that part of the drive seems selfish (even if it is possible to still get through). 

Very tactful to use the word "seems" LOL.

GraceD_17

One of my biggest pet peeves is people who block drives, whether it's blocking someone from getting in or stopping them getting out it's selfish and inconsiderate. 

Your guests really shouldn't be parking on curbs, if they're roadside, simply ask them to move 5 metres the other way and block the lamppost. 

pramsay13

If the drive is actually shared any of you can park wherever you want. 
If you just own a driveway each that happen to be right beside each other that is different.

You are not meant to park in front of a dropped kerb but it is not illegal. The reason for not parking there is to avoid blocking someone from going in or out, but it is slightly different if you are actively encouraging them to park in front of your cars.

If the driveway is solely yours your neighbours shouldn't really be driving across it anyway.

All that said, it depends what you want to do with the information. Is it really a big deal to continue to low your neighbours to drive over a corner of your driveway and to ask guests which I presume are reasonably infrequent to only park in front of car 2 and leave space.

oldbikebloke

why are you seeking to escalate this into a dispute with your neighbours? Can't you just be considerate and behave differently, or this all about you must be the "winner"?.

the law in respect of dropped kerbs says this: if a vehicle is blocking a dropped kerb (vehicle) access then the council can give it a parking ticket even if there are no visible parking restrictions (yellow lines). Hardly a practical solution to your situation.

you refer to "shared drive", but your diagram does not show a shared dive.
It shows 2 front gardens converted to off road parking, and it implies access to those gardens is via crossing the kerb and pavement, neither of which you, or your neighbour, legally own as it remains council land. But it is land over which a right of access has been granted by virtue of there being a dropped kerb. QED the access is in line with the dropped section and neither of you have written rights to "your half" since that does not exist in the first place. 

NameUnavailable

oldbikebloke said:

the law in respect of dropped kerbs says this: if a vehicle is blocking a dropped kerb (vehicle) access then the council can give it a parking ticket even if there are no visible parking restrictions (yellow lines). Hardly a practical solution to your situation.

Can you point to a link where this is stated officially?

I looked into law around dropped kerbs and access due to constantly dealing with neighbours who parked over the dropped kerb access to my garage and found that it was fine if they aren't obviously blocking someone in (not sure how they know if there are cars in the garages).

Even if they are blocking you in, it's not something the police are going to act on as a priority so in reality you just have to find whose car it is and ask them to move it.

numbercruncher8

IIRC if someone is parked across a dropped kerb you can call the traffic wardens out. I had this before at my old place. Council loved writing tickets and had a grassing hotline, someone would come along in a moped.

PCN code 27 covers parking in front of a dropped kerb. In practice though, if you owned the dropped kerb/property it provides access to, the guest could get the ticket cancelled on appeal as you have given permission.

The rules change in London, where parking on the pavement is not allowed by default (a resolution needs to be adopted to allow it). There are places where parking on pavement is seemingly doing people a favour (thin road) but then you can get a ticket.

oldbikebloke

NameUnavailable said:

Can you point to a link where this is stated officially?

I looked into law around dropped kerbs and access due to constantly dealing with neighbours who parked over the dropped kerb access to my garage and found that it was fine if they aren't obviously blocking someone in (not sure how they know if there are cars in the garages).

Even if they are blocking you in, it's not something the police are going to act on as a priority so in reality you just have to find whose car it is and ask them to move it.

I am not going to do your googling for you, but here is you starter including legalisation references
https://www.drivingtesttips.biz/dropped-kerb-parking.html
I agree the police have better things to do with their limited resources.

bucksbloke

Shared drives come with rights of way for each other. Check your deeds. 
I agree you should not be preventing your neighbours from accessing their drive, and it would be selfish of you to allow this to happen. 
Why would you actually want to have grief with the neighbours - I try to get on with mine.