Buying Near Proposed New Road

pcwep8

AdrianC said:

Do you mean this project?
https://highwaysengland.co.uk/our-work/north-west/a5036-port-of-liverpool-access/
https://assets.highwaysengland.co.uk/roads/road-projects/A5036+-+Port+of+Liverpool+Access/A5036+Port+of+Liverpool+Public+Information+Exhibition+Panels.pdf

If so, work was due to start this spring, and the project itself has been public knowledge since at least 2015, with the route announced in 2017. I would strongly suspect that the inconvenience and knock-on effects are already priced-in to the property, in the same was as properties close to HS2.

Although very likely there is still a chance that it might not happen as there is strong (in numbers) opposition towards it. Also, they haven't applied for planning permission yet. This might be why the house prices haven't seen a reduction. 

ComicGeek

davidmcn said:

300 yards isn't all that close, especially if there's something cushioning the noise. I used to live about half that distance from a motorway, and that was a relatively distant roar, it's not as if you're likely to hear every squeak and rattle from the trucks.

It tends to be consistent noise from a motorway - my sister lives 600m from the M25 and it's a steady low level noise that you quickly block out.

I live 300m from a relatively quiet A road, across an open field, and can make out the noise of every single lorry, truck and bus that passes along it - that's in a 30 mph area with vehicles slowing down and speeding up, so doesn't create that consistent noise that you can get used to. We don't get much night time traffic so doesn't disturb us too much, but I can certainly hear every vehicle at night time, and every truck in the day time.

davidmcn

ComicGeek said:

davidmcn said:

300 yards isn't all that close, especially if there's something cushioning the noise. I used to live about half that distance from a motorway, and that was a relatively distant roar, it's not as if you're likely to hear every squeak and rattle from the trucks.

It tends to be consistent noise from a motorway - my sister lives 600m from the M25 and it's a steady low level noise that you quickly block out.

I live 300m from a relatively quiet A road, across an open field, and can make out the noise of every single lorry, truck and bus that passes along it - that's in a 30 mph area with vehicles slowing down and speeding up, so doesn't create that consistent noise that you can get used to. We don't get much night time traffic so doesn't disturb us too much, but I can certainly hear every vehicle at night time, and every truck in the day time.

I would expect a new dual carriageway bypass to be more akin to a motorway in having consistent noise.

I could understand it more if it were a quiet rural location, but looking at where the OP is talking about, it's a densely-populated residential area, and in the other direction there's what looks a relatively busy main road only 160m from the house which I would expect is more likely to cause the sort of irregular noise likely to cause a disturbance. So I'm not sure the new road would be adding much to the mix.

martindow

It would not be surprising if after the road is built the open land between the new road and the houses will be built on.  If views and access to this land are part of the attraction in buying the house, this could not last long.

pcwep8

martindow said:

It would not be surprising if after the road is built the open land between the new road and the houses will be built on.  If views and access to this land are part of the attraction in buying the house, this could not last long.

The site used to be an old landfill and has been turned into a country park. I wouldn't say access to the land are a main part of the attraction but the large back garden is. My biggest worry is the house devaluing as the purchase price is top end.

pcwep8

davidmcn said:

ComicGeek said:

davidmcn said:

300 yards isn't all that close, especially if there's something cushioning the noise. I used to live about half that distance from a motorway, and that was a relatively distant roar, it's not as if you're likely to hear every squeak and rattle from the trucks.

It tends to be consistent noise from a motorway - my sister lives 600m from the M25 and it's a steady low level noise that you quickly block out.

I live 300m from a relatively quiet A road, across an open field, and can make out the noise of every single lorry, truck and bus that passes along it - that's in a 30 mph area with vehicles slowing down and speeding up, so doesn't create that consistent noise that you can get used to. We don't get much night time traffic so doesn't disturb us too much, but I can certainly hear every vehicle at night time, and every truck in the day time.

I would expect a new dual carriageway bypass to be more akin to a motorway in having consistent noise.

I could understand it more if it were a quiet rural location, but looking at where the OP is talking about, it's a densely-populated residential area, and in the other direction there's what looks a relatively busy main road only 160m from the house which I would expect is more likely to cause the sort of irregular noise likely to cause a disturbance. So I'm not sure the new road would be adding much to the mix.

Thanks for looking into it. The road 160m the other way is fairly busy, there's a very busy road about 500-600m away, although I wouldn't expect to hear them with the rows of houses inbetween.