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Fighting a UKCPM CCJ Help

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  • sofa_searcher
    sofa_searcher Posts: 94 Forumite
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    edited 20 August 2020 at 2:13AM
    Hi all please see the SAR template I will be sending to UKCPM's DPO via email. I've added a fifth bullet point saying "A copy of ‘Formal Demand of Payment’ letter" Any thing else to add?
    Request to set aside with consent template letter to follow shortly.

  • As promised see the following for my template letter requesting a CCJ set aside with consent from UKCPM. 
    Just to confirm should I email below to UKCPM or their solicitors? As mentioned above, UKCPM telephone lines are closed due to COVID. I have not tried calling/emailing their solicitors as I haven't confirmed who they are. Tomorrow (or today) morning I will call County Court Business Centre (CCBC) for an electronic copy of the case file.

  • henrik777
    henrik777 Posts: 3,054 Forumite
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    3) I just confirmed that my car (v5c) is registered to my parents address which is in Essex, Address_A. However the parking tickets, first issue 02/07/2018, and claim, claim raised on 11/11/2019, has been raised on a previous address, Address_B, that I no longer live at. I received the parking ticket whilst I was at Address_B but I moved out of Address_B in Oct 2018 and now live in Address_C. I have not received any correspondence, particularly the court claim, at Address_A or Address_C. In fact, I erroneously received another parking fine from parking eye at Address A that was dismissed by Morrison with no problem. Is my current situation an issue? When providing evidence should I provide my current address at Address_C and show that my v5c form is registered at Address_A?

    Where was the car registered to  on 02/07/2018 and why have they used address_B.


    The answers are the crux of the set aside application.

  • sofa_searcher
    sofa_searcher Posts: 94 Forumite
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    edited 20 August 2020 at 9:42AM
    henrik777 said:
    3) I just confirmed that my car (v5c) is registered to my parents address which is in Essex, Address_A. However the parking tickets, first issue 02/07/2018, and claim, claim raised on 11/11/2019, has been raised on a previous address, Address_B, that I no longer live at. I received the parking ticket whilst I was at Address_B but I moved out of Address_B in Oct 2018 and now live in Address_C. I have not received any correspondence, particularly the court claim, at Address_A or Address_C. In fact, I erroneously received another parking fine from parking eye at Address A that was dismissed by Morrison with no problem. Is my current situation an issue? When providing evidence should I provide my current address at Address_C and show that my v5c form is registered at Address_A?

    Where was the car registered to  on 02/07/2018 and why have they used address_B.


    The answers are the crux of the set aside application.

    The car was registered to Address_A on 02/07/2018 and it hasn't changed since I bought the car, around 08/2016, up till today. Like with a lot of people I was moving places regularly and at the time I lived in a HMO. My car insurance was registered to Address_B though so they may have used that information.
    Are the template letters above ok for what they are intended for?
    Also See below for details regarding the claim

    Date of Issue: Redacted 
    Date of Service: Redacted
    Claimant: UK CAR PARK MANAGEMENT LIMITED
    Solicitors: GLADSTONES SOLICITORS LIMITED
    Solicitor’s phone number: 0333 0230 049
    Solicitor’s reference number: Redacted/UK CAR PARK
    Particulars of the claim: THE DRIVER OF THE VEHICLE WITH REGISTRATION Redacted (THE 'VEHICLE') PARKED IN BREACH OF THE TERMS OF PARKING STIPULATED ON THE SIGNAGE (THE 'CONTRACT') AT Redacted Address, ON 02/07/2018 THUS INCURRING THE PARKING CHARGE(THE 'PCN'). THE PCN WAS NOT PAID WITHIN 28 DAYS OF ISSUE. THE CLAIMANT CLAIMS THE UNPAIDPCN FROM THE DEFENDANT AS THE DRIVER/KEEPER OF THE VEHICLE. DESPITE DEMANDS BEING MADE, THE DEFENDANT HAS FAILED TO SETTLE THEIR OUTSTANDING LIABILITY. THE CLAIMANT CLAIMS £100 FOR THE PCN, £60.00 CONTRACTUAL COSTS PURSUANT TO THE CONTRACT AND PCN TERMS AND CONDITIONS, TOGETHER WITH STATUTORY INTEREST OF £15.27 PURSUANT TO S69 OF THE COUNTY COURTS ACT 1984 AT 8.00% PER ANNUM, CONTINUING AT £0.04 PER DAY.

    Judgement date: November 2019

  • Le_Kirk
    Le_Kirk Posts: 24,698 Forumite
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    If you haven't already submitted that SAR, you need to change it slightly to read: -
    Please ERASE my old address ...............

    You don't want them to erase THEIR address!

  • henrik777 said:
    3) I just confirmed that my car (v5c) is registered to my parents address which is in Essex, Address_A. However the parking tickets, first issue 02/07/2018, and claim, claim raised on 11/11/2019, has been raised on a previous address, Address_B, that I no longer live at. I received the parking ticket whilst I was at Address_B but I moved out of Address_B in Oct 2018 and now live in Address_C. I have not received any correspondence, particularly the court claim, at Address_A or Address_C. In fact, I erroneously received another parking fine from parking eye at Address A that was dismissed by Morrison with no problem. Is my current situation an issue? When providing evidence should I provide my current address at Address_C and show that my v5c form is registered at Address_A?

    Where was the car registered to  on 02/07/2018 and why have they used address_B.


    The answers are the crux of the set aside application.

    Since my car registration hasn't changed from 2016 up to now is it ok to demonstrate using tenancy agreements etc to show I have moved from the address they filed claim against and therefore not receiving any Court letters? In my email for set aside by consent I will stick to only these facts.
    Now, will I be in a better position if I highlight that the initial PCN and any correspondence was not and never been issued to the address on my car v5c form, i.e. Address_A from above quoted explanation? If not I will leave this out and stick to my initial approach. 
  • henrik777
    henrik777 Posts: 3,054 Forumite
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    The common scenario in these is " We got the address from DVLA so as far as we're concerned it was the last known address".

    Now clearly this is not your scenario. So the next question is why have they used Address_B ?
  • sofa_searcher
    sofa_searcher Posts: 94 Forumite
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    edited 21 August 2020 at 1:34AM
    henrik777 said:
    The common scenario in these is " We got the address from DVLA so as far as we're concerned it was the last known address".

    Now clearly this is not your scenario. So the next question is why have they used Address_B ?
    I believe they may have obtained my address either via car insurance. In light of this i drafted a second set aside by consent letter and a Consent Order Form that I wish to send today or tomorrow. In the letter and consent order form I have asked for me to pay the £100 fee dependent on them signing on the consent form no later than 7 days from today. Question
    1) Is this reasonable or should I offer to also clear the invoice?
    2) is there anything else I need to add to my letter and consent form? 
    Letter

    Consent Order Form
  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 152,819 Forumite
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    4) Is it advisable to contact a solicitor? 
    No.  You are fine.  No paying the parking charge though.
    PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
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  • henrik777
    henrik777 Posts: 3,054 Forumite
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    Ask them why they used the address they did.

    Given the appearance of "bad" service why are you offering to pay the fee ?

    Why a tomlin order ? Why 2 different parking companies ?
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