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katiem188
katiem188 Posts: 28 Forumite
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edited 18 August 2020 at 4:13PM in Benefits & tax credits
Hello, hoping someone will be able to give me some solid advice! So I am in receipt of income support and I also receive careers allowance, I’ve recently been looking into capital when on benefits and that you need to declare any savings/capital over £6,000.. now I have never had a lump sum anywhere near this amount “saved” in my account or even sat there for a period of time before spending, I play a lot of online slots, bingo, gambling and online.. from these over the years I have made a fair amount of money some days I’ve won £500+ some days/weeks I’ve won nothing and not gambled. The whole “capital” thing is extremely confusing to me, I know gambling winnings aren’t seen as income and do not need to be declared unless it takes you over £6,000. What I’m wanting to know is if I won £50 here and there but spent it back on gambling and won another £200, £300 the same week etc are all these amounts added over the year to get my total capital or does it have to be a lump sum of £6,000 at any given point sat in your bank account including any money you have invested or cash etc.. thank you in advance

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  • calcotti
    calcotti Posts: 15,696 Forumite
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    It’s the amount you have at any one time.
    Information I post is for England unless otherwise stated. Some rules may be different in other parts of UK.
  • katiem188
    katiem188 Posts: 28 Forumite
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    calcotti said:
    It’s the amount you have at any one time.
    Hi calcotti, thanks for your reply! I’m still rather confused 😟 so if I had £5000 savings, £100 in a bank account and £900 in cash I know I’d have to report it as it would total the lower limit of £6,000

    but if one month I have say £3,000 in my savings account and it has then been spent on my home or a purchase so I End up having £0 but a few months later I manage to save another £3,000 from gambling wins.. would my capital be at £6,000? Even though I would only technically have £3,000 in savings as what I had saved months prior was spent. This is where I’m confused. Thank you 
  • TELLIT01
    TELLIT01 Posts: 18,028 Forumite
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    As calcotti says, it is the amount of capital you have at any one time.  Having £3k 3 months ago and another £3k now doesn't mean you now have £6k.
  • Mrsn
    Mrsn Posts: 1,430 Forumite
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    No it would only ever be the total in your account at that point in time. It doesn’t go on the “accumulation” of funds over the months.
  • katiem188
    katiem188 Posts: 28 Forumite
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    Thank you very much for both replies I wish they would make things clearer on their website! 😟
  • calcotti
    calcotti Posts: 15,696 Forumite
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    katiem188 said:
    calcotti said:
    It’s the amount you have at any one time.
    Hi calcotti, thanks for your reply! I’m still rather confused 😟 so if I had £5000 savings, £100 in a bank account and £900 in cash I know I’d have to report it as it would total the lower limit of £6,000

    but if one month I have say £3,000 in my savings account and it has then been spent on my home or a purchase so I End up having £0 but a few months later I manage to save another £3,000 from gambling wins.. would my capital be at £6,000? Even though I would only technically have £3,000 in savings as what I had saved months prior was spent. This is where I’m confused. Thank you 
    I thought my answer was clear. It’s the amount you have at any one time. In your scenario, you have £3,000 at one time, then you have £0 at another time, then you have £3,000 at a third point in time. At none of these points in time do you have £6,000.
    Information I post is for England unless otherwise stated. Some rules may be different in other parts of UK.
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