Mums Disability PIP address Change , Area Change

Spoonie_Turtle

quattros said:

Spoonie_Turtle said:

She won't lose PIP. (I don't know what SDA is.)

Either one or both of you could be a carer for her; if she gets the daily living element of PIP and if one person caring for her for 35hrs+ is earning under £128 per week after tax, NI and allowable expenses, they could claim Carer's Allowance.
https://www.gov.uk/carers-allowance/eligibility

Hi So my Dad does care for her For many years ,  he is retired in his 70s but does not claim for carers allowance , He gets state Pension and Winter Fuel payments no other income As far as. Have been told.
I just thought they are both living in their home they bought over 30 years ago but think its just too big for them to look after now at their age and my mums Ailments , So was thinking if they Sell their home and they could come live with me , but in the process I don’t want my mum loosing her benefits which she is entitled too.
I guess the other option is my Parents Purchase a smaller manageable home under the same Council ( don’t think council part matters?) then she will maintain all her benefits?

The SDA i was under the impression it is severe Disability Allowance , it says it in Brackets (SDA) 
on  JobsCentreplus headed letter.
another thing they get the Car Tax payed under the benefits too.

It depends whether they claim (or could claim) any means-tested benefits as to whether it's worth your dad claiming Carer's Allowance to establish an underlying entitlement to it - if he gets a full State Pension he wouldn't be paid any CA but it could increase any entitlement to means-tested benefits.
https://www.carersuk.org/help-and-advice/financial-support/help-with-benefits/other-pension-age-benefits

Wherever they move she won't lose her PIP - moving would only affect any means-tested benefits which is why you were advised to find out *exactly* what their situation is. What I meant about SDA is I don't know the rules for it, I have no idea what kind of benefit it is, so can't say anything about it either way.

In terms of benefits, the council only deals with council tax and housing benefit (which is not applicable to them, owning their home) so it most likely wouldn't matter whether they stay under the same council or not.

The car tax, is that because your mum gets the higher rate of PIP mobility? If so, that won't be affected at all.

Savvy_Sue

quattros said:

Hi So my Dad does care for her For many years ,  he is retired in his 70s but does not claim for carers allowance , He gets state Pension and Winter Fuel payments no other income As far as. Have been told.
I just thought they are both living in their home they bought over 30 years ago but think its just too big for them to look after now at their age and my mums Ailments , So was thinking if they Sell their home and they could come live with me , but in the process I don’t want my mum loosing her benefits which she is entitled too.
I guess the other option is my Parents Purchase a smaller manageable home under the same Council ( don’t think council part matters?) then she will maintain all her benefits?

The SDA i was under the impression it is severe Disability Allowance , it says it in Brackets (SDA) 
on  JobsCentreplus headed letter.
another thing they get the Car Tax payed under the benefits too.

Your parents really need to think about what THEY want to do and what is best for THEM. 

Do you live alone? If not, you obviously need to discuss fully with your nearest and dearest the implications of your parents moving in. 

If you do, you need consider the implications for any future relationship if your parents move in. 

But is that what your parents would want? As you say, another option is a smaller, more manageable home - and no, it doesn't matter where that is. Close to you can definitely be helpful. 

Yet another possibility, depending on your mum's needs, is sheltered or very sheltered housing. Where I live there are some brilliant places which have everything from flats for completely independent living but with help on call if you need it, right through to full nursing / dementia care, all on one site. (I always said if Mum died first, I'd argue for moving Dad to one of these, there was one built around a still used cricket pitch, which he would have loved!)

Because one thing is certain: none of us are getting any younger. I don't know what help your dad gives your mum at the moment, but in his 70s if she needed any lifting it could be problematic. If he becomes unwell or suffers an injury, what then? Whatever help Mum needs at the moment, is Dad going to be able to continue to provide it if she gets worse? 

quattros

Savvy_Sue said:

quattros said:

Hi So my Dad does care for her For many years ,  he is retired in his 70s but does not claim for carers allowance , He gets state Pension and Winter Fuel payments no other income As far as. Have been told.
I just thought they are both living in their home they bought over 30 years ago but think its just too big for them to look after now at their age and my mums Ailments , So was thinking if they Sell their home and they could come live with me , but in the process I don’t want my mum loosing her benefits which she is entitled too.
I guess the other option is my Parents Purchase a smaller manageable home under the same Council ( don’t think council part matters?) then she will maintain all her benefits?

The SDA i was under the impression it is severe Disability Allowance , it says it in Brackets (SDA) 
on  JobsCentreplus headed letter.
another thing they get the Car Tax payed under the benefits too.

Your parents really need to think about what THEY want to do and what is best for THEM. 

Do you live alone? If not, you obviously need to discuss fully with your nearest and dearest the implications of your parents moving in. 

If you do, you need consider the implications for any future relationship if your parents move in. 

But is that what your parents would want? As you say, another option is a smaller, more manageable home - and no, it doesn't matter where that is. Close to you can definitely be helpful. 

Yet another possibility, depending on your mum's needs, is sheltered or very sheltered housing. Where I live there are some brilliant places which have everything from flats for completely independent living but with help on call if you need it, right through to full nursing / dementia care, all on one site. (I always said if Mum died first, I'd argue for moving Dad to one of these, there was one built around a still used cricket pitch, which he would have loved!)

Because one thing is certain: none of us are getting any younger. I don't know what help your dad gives your mum at the moment, but in his 70s if she needed any lifting it could be problematic. If he becomes unwell or suffers an injury, what then? Whatever help Mum needs at the moment, is Dad going to be able to continue to provide it if she gets worse? 

Hi Sue thanks for your Reply

I have spoken to my parents for a while about this , I mean they are happy to move in as i have a home which can accommodate them both ,
I do currently live alone , and have thought about the future if that Changes ,
My Dad Does Earn the higher Rate of State Pension i Believe. So not sure if he would get the Carers Allowance  ?

So at the Moment looking at the option if they can mov in with me , as long as she continues to receive SDA?  , From previous Comments looks like she will will still get PIP  if she moves in with me.?

other option we have been thinking of is My Sister is finishing up her uni Studies and is gong to be a first time buyer so she has also looked at our parents moving in my Sister.

poppy12345

quattros said:

poppy12345 said:

quattros said:

venison said:

Exactly what benefits do they currently receive ?

Hi So my Mum Gets Severe Disability Allowance

This isn't possible because it no longer exists. Severe disability premium exists but for her to claim this then your dad will also need to be claiming a qualifying benefit such as PIP daily living, DLA mid/high rate care or Attendance Allowance or he must be registered blind. If he does and they're claiming the severe disability premium then this will stop when they go to live with you.

You really need to find out exactly what benefits they are both claiming.

Hi So looking at my mums Paperwork she gets PIP and SDA Benefits Basic Rate , My Dad does not get any carers benefits.
So from what i gather if they come live with me then my mum will loose the Benefits she is getting , Unless i am a Carer for my mum or can my dad be a carer For my mum but living with me? 

SDA no longer exists so it's impossible for her to still be claiming this. This benefit ended in 2001 and was replaced by Incapacity benefit, which was then replaced by ESA. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Severe_Disablement_Allowance

Was the paper work a recently dated one?

Is she under or over state pension age?

Her PIP will not be affected if she moves in with you as previously stated.

Moving in with you won't affect any of their benefts, except council tax reduction, if they are currently claiming this.

The only thing that will be affected is any means tested benefits they maybe claiming, if they have savings/capital of £16,000 and over.

Savvy_Sue

quattros said:

other option we have been thinking of is My Sister is finishing up her uni Studies and is gong to be a first time buyer so she has also looked at our parents moving in my Sister.

That's another one to really think about before you leap in. Your sister - early 20s? What impact will having your parents living in her house have on any current and future relationships? What level of care will be expected from her? For how many years? 

One of my siblings bought a new home with their MIL's help, and they were able to get something with a downstairs separate living area for her. They've been able to make that work, but MIL is mobile, active and fit, plus she has a lovely personality (which my mum lacked.) 

A family friend had mum move in when I think Mum was in her 60s. Mum lived to be over 100 - blind, deaf, bedbound for at least the last 10 years of her life. It did our friend's health no favours at all: they admitted if they'd known she'd live that long, they'd have made other choices, harsh though that may sound. 

We have another friend, around 50 I guess, who takes care of their mum at home. They can only come out when they have respite care in. 

You can probably tell I am a HUGE fan of people maintaining their independence for as long as possible, and of taking whatever steps are needed to make that possible. My parents for some reason chose in later life to move to an absolutely massive house in a new area. With a gardener, a cleaner and regular help with shopping, they lived there more or less successfully. When they needed a stairlift, they paid to have one put in. After a few years, Dad wanted to move to either sheltered housing or into a care home, but Mum wouldn't hear of it. After he died, Mum was still determined to stay put, and in some ways a large house was a blessing, because as she didn't go out much, at least she HAD to get some exercise walking around the house. I told her that if she wanted to stay there, she HAD to stay mobile, because wheelchair access would have been a complete and utter nightmare.

Spoonie_Turtle

poppy12345 said:

SDA no longer exists so it's impossible for her to still be claiming this. This benefit ended in 2001 and was replaced by Incapacity benefit, which was then replaced by ESA. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Severe_Disablement_Allowance

From that link:
"However, although it is no longer possible to make a claim for SDA, individuals who are already receiving the benefit have continued to do so"

Maybe that's the case for OP's Mum.

poppy12345

Spoonie_Turtle said:

poppy12345 said:

SDA no longer exists so it's impossible for her to still be claiming this. This benefit ended in 2001 and was replaced by Incapacity benefit, which was then replaced by ESA. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Severe_Disablement_Allowance

From that link:
"However, although it is no longer possible to make a claim for SDA, individuals who are already receiving the benefit have continued to do so"

Maybe that's the case for OP's Mum.

It was a working age benefit and no longer exists for anyone. All claims are now for ESA.

it really doesn't help when a person posts asking for third party advice because unless they know all the details for the person they are asking for then giving advice is extremely difficult.

In this case i'd advise the OP to contact and advice agency near them.

quattros

poppy12345 said:

quattros said:

poppy12345 said:

quattros said:

venison said:

Exactly what benefits do they currently receive ?

Hi So my Mum Gets Severe Disability Allowance

This isn't possible because it no longer exists. Severe disability premium exists but for her to claim this then your dad will also need to be claiming a qualifying benefit such as PIP daily living, DLA mid/high rate care or Attendance Allowance or he must be registered blind. If he does and they're claiming the severe disability premium then this will stop when they go to live with you.

You really need to find out exactly what benefits they are both claiming.

Hi So looking at my mums Paperwork she gets PIP and SDA Benefits Basic Rate , My Dad does not get any carers benefits.
So from what i gather if they come live with me then my mum will loose the Benefits she is getting , Unless i am a Carer for my mum or can my dad be a carer For my mum but living with me? 

SDA no longer exists so it's impossible for her to still be claiming this. This benefit ended in 2001 and was replaced by Incapacity benefit, which was then replaced by ESA. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Severe_Disablement_Allowance

Was the paper work a recently dated one?

Is she under or over state pension age?

Her PIP will not be affected if she moves in with you as previously stated.

Moving in with you won't affect any of their benefts, except council tax reduction, if they are currently claiming this.

The only thing that will be affected is any means tested benefits they maybe claiming, if they have savings/capital of £16,000 and over.

Hi  sorry if i am going round in circles but the Paperwork says SDA , at the bottom of the letters
my Mum as Claiming this from like the 90s so i think that’s why it has not changed , though in 2018 after assessment PIP was introduced and then she gets that , its all very complicated as i never dealt with it as my sister and Dad used too .

I will double check but Paperwork is dated latest 2020.

my Mum reached Pension Age in 2017 and she still has not claimed for it , Which i was not aware of until recently, So think she has lost out and a couple of years!

I would in normal case gone to Citizens Advice but with this pandemic i did not want to take my Parents anywhere which could cause harm, So thought i would try for some advice on here and so far has been good and appreciated.

poppy12345

quattros said:

poppy12345 said:

quattros said:

poppy12345 said:

quattros said:

venison said:

Exactly what benefits do they currently receive ?

Hi So my Mum Gets Severe Disability Allowance

This isn't possible because it no longer exists. Severe disability premium exists but for her to claim this then your dad will also need to be claiming a qualifying benefit such as PIP daily living, DLA mid/high rate care or Attendance Allowance or he must be registered blind. If he does and they're claiming the severe disability premium then this will stop when they go to live with you.

You really need to find out exactly what benefits they are both claiming.

Hi So looking at my mums Paperwork she gets PIP and SDA Benefits Basic Rate , My Dad does not get any carers benefits.
So from what i gather if they come live with me then my mum will loose the Benefits she is getting , Unless i am a Carer for my mum or can my dad be a carer For my mum but living with me? 

SDA no longer exists so it's impossible for her to still be claiming this. This benefit ended in 2001 and was replaced by Incapacity benefit, which was then replaced by ESA. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Severe_Disablement_Allowance

Was the paper work a recently dated one?

Is she under or over state pension age?

Her PIP will not be affected if she moves in with you as previously stated.

Moving in with you won't affect any of their benefts, except council tax reduction, if they are currently claiming this.

The only thing that will be affected is any means tested benefits they maybe claiming, if they have savings/capital of £16,000 and over.

my Mum reached Pension Age in 2017 and she still has not claimed for it , Which i was not aware of until recently, So think she has lost out and a couple of years!

SDA was a working age benefit as she's now state pension age, i'm even more confused why she still continues to claim it. I can only assume she's falling through the cracks and they forget to transfer her to ESA at the time. I have no idea how she's still claiming it being state pension age.

She needs to ring DWP and speak to them regarding the SDA.

Either way, living you with will not affect any of their benefits.

As she's state pension age then she needs to claims her state pension.