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Energy saving "flush"

Moved into a new place a few years ago, and ever since I find the flush on the toilet is rubbish. To put it bluntly, half of the time it does not flush the contents away. Most of the time you have to flush twice. After some investigation I found the toilet flush fitted was an energy saving flush. I would basically like to rip this out and put a normal flush in.

Does anyone know if this is easy and what parts I would need to get? I searched on screwfix but there are various flush systems and it is not clear what a "normal" one is as opposed to the energy saving one.

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  • Belenus
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    What type of toilet is it?

    Is there an adjustable float?

    Perhaps the float is set at too low a level.
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  • ic
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    All new toilets are required by law to deliver no more than six litres in a single flush, but they should clear their contents with that flush.  https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1999/1148/schedule/2/crossheading/wcs-flushing-devices-and-urinals/made

    I had a toilet that flushed to the soil pipe via an immediate 90 degree left turn.  When I redid the bathroom, I changed the bend to a swept bend and the flush-ability improved dramatically.

    Otherwise perhaps you need to rethink your diet? :smiley:
  • Ectophile
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    It entirely depends on the cistern mechanism.
    I once had a toilet where the difference between water saving or not was simply down to whether or not you pulled a little red plastic plug out of a hole in the side if the siphon tube.  Put the plug back in and it went back to a full flush every time.
    If it sticks, force it.
    If it breaks, well it wasn't working right anyway.
  • greyteam1959
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    Your energy saving flush may have an adjustment to the amount of water it uses.
    A picture of the mechanism would be helpful.

  • grumbler
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    My flush ("Fluidmaster Red Flapper") has several settings for a 'small' flush that works by default.
    For a full flush I have to keep holding the button pushed.
  • Davesnave
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    I always flush 3 times anyway; it's lucky!
  • I can't work out how to add my own photo onto here, but basically it is the same as this one.


  • ic said:
    All new toilets are required by law to deliver no more than six litres in a single flush, but they should clear their contents with that flush.  https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1999/1148/schedule/2/crossheading/wcs-flushing-devices-and-urinals/made

    I had a toilet that flushed to the soil pipe via an immediate 90 degree left turn.  When I redid the bathroom, I changed the bend to a swept bend and the flush-ability improved dramatically.

    Otherwise perhaps you need to rethink your diet? :smiley:
    What a lot of rubbish these laws are. I am forced to flush at least twice so it must waste even more water.

    I think my diet is ok as I don't get any issues in other toilets with a proper flush. :D
  • Belenus said:
    What type of toilet is it?

    Is there an adjustable float?

    Perhaps the float is set at too low a level.
    The water comes to the top. 

    It is like this one.


  • Belenus
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    edited 11 August 2020 at 2:20PM
    I can't work out how to add my own photo onto here, but basically it is the same as this one.


    On yours, can you adjust that float so that the water fills up to the small protruding indicator on the back wall of the cistern/tank below the curved section?

    That is probably a maximum or recommended fill line.

    The full width mark just above that looks like a water mark where the tank in the photo has been filled to that level for a while.
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    He said to the salesman, “My wife would like to talk to you about the Volkswagen Golf in the showroom window.”
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    The man replied, “You have now mate".
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