strange quote from private parking company

timaus

KeithP said:

The parking company has up to six months following a parking event to ask the DVLA for the Registered Keeper's details.

Why are people under the impression that there is a 14 day period which they must recieve it in then? Not arguing, just curious.

KeithP

Have Smart rejected your Appeal?

If so, you need to prepare your PoPLA appeal.

This is easily winnable at PoPLA with a 'no keeper liability' appeal.

The third post of the NEWBIES thread will give you ideas, but there are many Smart PoPLA appeal examples all over this forum.

Redx

They have failed POFA by not getting the NTK to the keeper by day 15 following the incident , so you are correct about that

They have 6 months to obtain keeper details , but because they failed POFA the keeper has no liability , which they are fully aware of but choose to ignore, do not tell them who was driving !!

Reply telling them to either cancel the PCN or issue a popla code , so that popla can cancel it

If they don't , complain to the BPA and give them copies of all paperwork , due to a breach of the 2020 CoP

KeithP

timaus said:

KeithP said:

The parking company has up to six months following a parking event to ask the DVLA for the Registered Keeper's details.

Why are people under the impression that there is a 14 day period which they must recieve it in then? Not arguing, just curious.

You tell me. Why do you think that?

They only need to get a NtK to the keeper within fourteen days if they want to transfer the driver's liability to the keeper, and then only if there was no windscreen ticket left on the vehicle at the time of the parking event.

Some parking companies, notably Smart Parking, do not bother to try to transfer that liability. They rely on the ignorance of most motorists and just send out rude speculative invoices and threats in the hope that the RK will know no better and simply pay whatever is demanded.

Fruitcake

timaus said:

KeithP said:

The parking company has up to six months following a parking event to ask the DVLA for the Registered Keeper's details.

Why are people under the impression that there is a 14 day period which they must recieve it in then? Not arguing, just curious.

Some people are under the impression that the earth is flat.
Some people are under the impression that the corona virus is a hoax.
Some people are under the impression that there is a 14 day period by which they must receive an NTK. 
I have no idea why some people believe these things.
Some of these people might work for the CAB. 
Some of these people might post things on the internet, or spout their beliefs down the pub.

There is the law (the PoFA 2012), trade associations (old boys' clubs) and parking companies (scammers). Only one of the provides accurate information.
People who read and understand the former would most likely be the type of people who are not under the impression that there is a 14 day period by which they must receive a NTK.

timaus

Fruitcake said:

timaus said:

KeithP said:

The parking company has up to six months following a parking event to ask the DVLA for the Registered Keeper's details.

Why are people under the impression that there is a 14 day period which they must recieve it in then? Not arguing, just curious.

Some people are under the impression that the earth is flat.
Some people are under the impression that the corona virus is a hoax.
Some people believe are under the impression that there is a 14 day period by which they must receive an NTK. 
I have no idea why some people believe these things.
Some of these people might work for the CAB. 
Some of these people might post things on the internet, or spout their beliefs down the pub.

There is the law (the PoFA 2012), trade associations (old boys' clubs) and parking companies (scammers). Only one of the provides accurate information.
People who read and understand the former would most likely be the type of people who are not under the impression that there is a 14 day period by which they must receive a NTK.

Just so I'm sure, are you saying there isn't a 14 day period that I need to recieve an NTK. If so what wouldyour advice be? 

Redx

Smart parking haven't complied with POFA in almost 8 years , so despite their **** and any other **** the keeper has no liability

Only POFA can hold a keeper liable if complied with , but a driver may be liable and these companies rely on ignorance and on people telling them who the driver is or was , sometimes enjoying themselves in the foot

It's pointless arguing with Smart , they want that so you run down the clock

If an appeal is rejected , they should issue a popla code , so insist on cancellation or a popla code

Redx

Smart parking haven't complied with POFA in almost 8 years , so despite their **** and any other **** the keeper has no liability

Only POFA can hold a keeper liable if complied with , but a driver may be liable and these companies rely on ignorance and on people telling them who the driver is or was , sometimes enjoying themselves in the foot

It's pointless arguing with Smart , they want that so you run down the clock

If an appeal is rejected , they should issue a popla code , so insist on cancellation or a popla code

timaus

Redx said:

Smart parking haven't complied with POFA in almost 8 years , so despite their **** and any other **** the keeper has no liability

Only POFA can hold a keeper liable if complied with , but a driver may be liable and these companies rely on ignorance and on people telling them who the driver is or was , sometimes enjoying themselves in the foot

It's pointless arguing with Smart , they want that so you run down the clock

If an appeal is rejected , they should issue a popla code , so insist on cancellation or a popla code

I'll try and request one from them, they have sent a no reply email with no further information so will maybe have to appeal again? Or Ill find an email on their website.

KeithP

timaus said:

I'll try and request one from them, they have sent a no reply email with no further information so will maybe have to appeal again? Or Ill find an email on their website.

What did that 'no reply' email say?

Was it not an appeal rejection email?

A PoPLA verification code will be on that email.