help please didnt park or turn off engine ticket for 12mins

Fizzymad

pulled on to an empty country  carpark to check my car(sounded strange) couldn't pull over to the side of the road due to dangerous corner. pulled on 21.06pm left 21.19pm..Recieved a NTK PCN  from ministerbay watch...i sent a letter based on template on here ..without prejudice disputing(didn't appeal) the parking charges as the registered keeper,  denying liability or contractual agreement, no admission to driver, asking for further information. Recieved an appeal rejection letter and popla number, re- emailed again, asking for further information ,none given.  This carpark is ANPR and is well known for not being able to pay by cash, but a number given, no-one answers and ring-go  app which relies on a phone and internet  intention wasn't to park.. What is my best course of action? thanks in advance   

Redx

A landowner cancellation is always your best course of action , regardless of the circumstances , known as plan A in the newbies FAQ sticky thread near the top of the forum

Popla appeals are advised in the third post of that thread , with examples and suggested points like poor signage , no landowner authority etc

Half_way

Template? from where?
tip: never use terms such as without prejudice, or without prejudice save as to costs unless you know exactly what you are doing, and even then in virtually all cases it is best avoided

Coupon-mad

Given you got a rejection and POPLA code and then 'emailed back' (pointless waste of time) is your POPLA code still within the 30+ days that the code will work?  What's the date on the rejection letter?

i sent a letter based on template on here

Ours from this forum's NEWBIES thread or the diabolical one on MSE's main site?

You need to show POPLA evidence that you could not pay and that the phone at this site is not answered and also the usual stuff about the signs having Bransby Wilson Ltd on them and probably not Minster Baywatch (wrong company offering the parking). 

Go and get LOTS of photo evidence without driving in.  Walk in.  Show a lack of entrance sign if you can, that's always good.

We assume you have already done the obvious and searched the forum before posting, for Minster Baywatch POPLA and have found out what I'm talking about re Bransby Wilson on the signage.  We can't cover it from scratch on every thread...they are all the same!

Fizzymad

Redx said:

A landowner cancellation is always your best course of action , regardless of the circumstances , known as plan A in the newbies FAQ sticky thread near the top of the forum

Popla appeals are advised in the third post of that thread , with examples and suggested points like poor signage , no landowner authority etc

thanks have appealed to the landowner..i have photos of poor signage, signage  from the road is on the passenger side when making a left turn and is low so isn't visible  to the driver nor lit.. the carpark is part of a country park and has no lighting on it at all. 

Castle

Country Parks are often not relevant land, so POFA2012 won't apply.

D_P_Dance

Nine times out of ten these tickets are scams, so consider complaining to your MP., it can cause the scammer extra costs, and in some cases, cancellation. 

Parliament is well aware of the MO of these private parking companies, many of whom are former clampers, and on 15th March 2019 a Bill was enacted to curb the excesses of these shysters. Codes of Practice are being drawn up, an independent appeals service will be set up later this year,

Just as the clampers were finally closed down, so hopefully will many of these companies, persistent offenders denied access to the DVLA database and unable to operate.

Hopefully life will become impossible for the worst of these scammers, but until this is done you should still complain to your MP, citing the new legislation.

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2019/8/contents/of these Private Parking Companies.

Fizzymad

Positive news landowner has cancelled the pcn 😄🙌

Le_Kirk

Well done - plan A strikes again!

Redx

It's amazing how often plan A works yet people have to be almost forced into doing it !!!

They rarely think of doing it , yet it seems obvious because the dog should say the tail , not the other way round

Well done

Umkomaas

Fizzymad said:

Positive news landowner has cancelled the pcn 😄🙌

Well done. 🥂 Do you have that in writing? You can check whether the PPC has acted in accordance with their principal's instruction by accessing your PCN on the PPC's website (go as if to pay the charge) to check its status. Give it a few days for adjustments to be made to the file.