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Looking to buy a flat but no balcony

Looking for some advice pl.  My son is looking to buy 1 bed flat in  london preferrably with a balcony.  He is a smoker and despite nagging him to quit he will not.  One of the flat he is interested has got no balcony so am a bit concerned whether he is going to smoke leaning outside the window cause issues with other people.  Even with a balcony the smoke will travel.  I can see problems with neighbours as myself is anti-smoking.  Any advice from those who smoke and live in flat with no outdoor space?  Sorry if this post is not in the appropriate forum. Thanks
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  • hazyjo
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    Is there a smoking area outside the block? Would be annoying for others above if smoking on a balcony or out the window unless he buys on the top floor. Prob better off smoking inside near a window with windows wide open and bedroom door shut.
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  • blue_max_3
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    macman said:
    I don't get it. It's going to be his flat, so why can't he just smoke indoors, balcony or no balcony?
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  • Sanne
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    If it’s leasehold there may also be something in the lease about smoking - we were renting in a block of flats and there were multiple notices and reminders from the management company that smoking in the building (incl on balconies) was not permitted. There wasn’t a smoking area outside so people generally just stood in front of the doors outside. 
  • hazyjo
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    Sanne said:
    If it’s leasehold there may also be something in the lease about smoking - we were renting in a block of flats and there were multiple notices and reminders from the management company that smoking in the building (incl on balconies) was not permitted. There wasn’t a smoking area outside so people generally just stood in front of the doors outside. 
    Are you saying they weren't allowed to smoke inside their own flat? Common parts and balconies would be more likely.
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  • NameUnavailable
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    If it's got a balcony the first thing I'd be checking is if there's an ESW1 form........see other thread.
  • Not a smoker and not intending to tread over anyones freedom of choice. But - smoking indoors to my mind would create an unpleasant atmosphere even for a smoker or any visitors. I wonder if it is likely to trigger the fire alarms and for that matter is it prudent to smoke indoors in terms of fire risk? In some buildings smoke travels to other units, but I'd also imagine that it would be poor form to smoke out of windows or on balconies if it is likely to pollute the environment for others living in close proximity. 
    Curious as to what the arrangements would be - smoking area on the roof or outside the building?
  • hazyjo
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    Not a smoker and not intending to tread over anyones freedom of choice. But - smoking indoors to my mind would create an unpleasant atmosphere even for a smoker or any visitors. I wonder if it is likely to trigger the fire alarms and for that matter is it prudent to smoke indoors in terms of fire risk? In some buildings smoke travels to other units, but I'd also imagine that it would be poor form to smoke out of windows or on balconies if it is likely to pollute the environment for others living in close proximity. 
    Curious as to what the arrangements would be - smoking area on the roof or outside the building?
    You definitely didn't grow up in the '80s like me lol. Know things have changed (thankfully), but I'd still be surprised if people weren't allowed to smoke in their own flat.
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  • hb2
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    hazyjo said:
    Not a smoker and not intending to tread over anyones freedom of choice. But - smoking indoors to my mind would create an unpleasant atmosphere even for a smoker or any visitors. I wonder if it is likely to trigger the fire alarms and for that matter is it prudent to smoke indoors in terms of fire risk? In some buildings smoke travels to other units, but I'd also imagine that it would be poor form to smoke out of windows or on balconies if it is likely to pollute the environment for others living in close proximity. 
    Curious as to what the arrangements would be - smoking area on the roof or outside the building?
    You definitely didn't grow up in the '80s like me lol. Know things have changed (thankfully), but I'd still be surprised if people weren't allowed to smoke in their own flat.
    I own a flat in a block of 6 and there is no smoking allowed anywhere in the block - and that includes inside our own flat. 
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  • 3card
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    I own a flat that i rent out and it is a ground floor flat with french doors opening onto the garden area'
    Our lease does state that no smoking inside the block so that is good 
    The only thing i would point out is that if he smokes on his balcony just remember this produces ash and this may fall below causing a pita to the residents below and if he couldnt be bothered going outside for the smoke then the chances are he would just throw his cigarette buts out over the balcony too causing more hassles 
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