Minimum income floor questions

Spoonie_Turtle

Pinkbunny2000 said:

Does the min income floor apply if you are not self employed?

if a couple has only one working and earning £640 month do they put pressure on you to earn more?

Oh! No, it's only for self-employed

Earning £640 a month should be, in practice, 'working enough'. I get confused with the different thresholds (AET / CET) and the ins and outs of how they work exactly but it should definitely be enough for them not to be pressurising anyone.

Pinkbunny2000

Spoonie_Turtle said:

Pinkbunny2000 said:

Does the min income floor apply if you are not self employed?

if a couple has only one working and earning £640 month do they put pressure on you to earn more?

Oh! No, it's only for self-employed

Earning £640 a month should be, in practice, 'working enough'. I get confused with the different thresholds (AET / CET) and the ins and outs of how they work exactly but it should definitely be enough for them not to be pressurising anyone.

Thanks that’s what I really wanted to know

what a great forum mse is

calcotti

Pinkbunny2000 said:

Does the min income floor apply if you are not self employed?

if a couple has only one working and earning £640 month do they put pressure on you to earn more?

Because you asked about MIF I assumed you were self employed!
Self employed people do not have work search requirements imposed by DWP and the MIF is intended to ensure that only people who are genuine aiming to earn a living from self employment declare themselves as such. Otherwise people could say they are self employed but earn very little and rely on UC. Unfortunately MIF is a very blunt instrument which has no regard to the huge variation in monthly income that self employed people can experience, particularly if they only get paid at the end of chunks of work. Employed people on the other hand have to enter into a Claimant Commitment and can be sanctioned if they fail to comply with it.
With earnings of £640/month you would be expected to look for more work but in practice would be in the light touch regime https://www.uceplus.co.uk/light-touch-regime.html

Pinkbunny2000

calcotti said:

Pinkbunny2000 said:

Does the min income floor apply if you are not self employed?

if a couple has only one working and earning £640 month do they put pressure on you to earn more?

Because you asked about MIF I assumed you were self employed!
Self employed people do not have work search requirements imposed by DWP and the MIF is intended to ensure that only people who are genuine aiming to earn a living from self employment declare themselves as such. Otherwise people could say they are self employed but earn very little and rely on UC. Unfortunately MIF is a very blunt instrument which has no regard to the huge variation in monthly income that self employed people can experience, particularly if they only get paid at the end of chunks of work. Employed people on the other hand have to enter into a Claimant Commitment and can be sanctioned if they fail to comply with it.
With earnings of £640/month you would be expected to look for more work but in practice would be in the light touch regime https://www.uceplus.co.uk/light-touch-regime.html

How long would the light touch last for?

calcotti

Pinkbunny2000 said:

calcotti said:

Pinkbunny2000 said:

Does the min income floor apply if you are not self employed?

if a couple has only one working and earning £640 month do they put pressure on you to earn more?

Because you asked about MIF I assumed you were self employed!
Self employed people do not have work search requirements imposed by DWP and the MIF is intended to ensure that only people who are genuine aiming to earn a living from self employment declare themselves as such. Otherwise people could say they are self employed but earn very little and rely on UC. Unfortunately MIF is a very blunt instrument which has no regard to the huge variation in monthly income that self employed people can experience, particularly if they only get paid at the end of chunks of work. Employed people on the other hand have to enter into a Claimant Commitment and can be sanctioned if they fail to comply with it.
With earnings of £640/month you would be expected to look for more work but in practice would be in the light touch regime https://www.uceplus.co.uk/light-touch-regime.html

How long would the light touch last for?

For as long as the earnings are sufficiently high.

Pinkbunny2000

calcotti said:

Pinkbunny2000 said:

calcotti said:

Pinkbunny2000 said:

Does the min income floor apply if you are not self employed?

if a couple has only one working and earning £640 month do they put pressure on you to earn more?

Because you asked about MIF I assumed you were self employed!
Self employed people do not have work search requirements imposed by DWP and the MIF is intended to ensure that only people who are genuine aiming to earn a living from self employment declare themselves as such. Otherwise people could say they are self employed but earn very little and rely on UC. Unfortunately MIF is a very blunt instrument which has no regard to the huge variation in monthly income that self employed people can experience, particularly if they only get paid at the end of chunks of work. Employed people on the other hand have to enter into a Claimant Commitment and can be sanctioned if they fail to comply with it.
With earnings of £640/month you would be expected to look for more work but in practice would be in the light touch regime https://www.uceplus.co.uk/light-touch-regime.html

How long would the light touch last for?

For as long as the earnings are sufficiently high.

And that level is about £640?

On light touch you don’t have so much pressure?

calcotti

Pinkbunny2000 said:

calcotti said:

Pinkbunny2000 said:

calcotti said:

Pinkbunny2000 said:

Does the min income floor apply if you are not self employed?

if a couple has only one working and earning £640 month do they put pressure on you to earn more?

Because you asked about MIF I assumed you were self employed!
Self employed people do not have work search requirements imposed by DWP and the MIF is intended to ensure that only people who are genuine aiming to earn a living from self employment declare themselves as such. Otherwise people could say they are self employed but earn very little and rely on UC. Unfortunately MIF is a very blunt instrument which has no regard to the huge variation in monthly income that self employed people can experience, particularly if they only get paid at the end of chunks of work. Employed people on the other hand have to enter into a Claimant Commitment and can be sanctioned if they fail to comply with it.
With earnings of £640/month you would be expected to look for more work but in practice would be in the light touch regime https://www.uceplus.co.uk/light-touch-regime.html

How long would the light touch last for?

For as long as the earnings are sufficiently high.

And that level is about £640?

On light touch you don’t have so much pressure?

Please read the link I posted which explains it - that’s why I posted it!