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Changing light fittings

Hello
I have tried today to change light fittings for first time in my life. I thought it should be simple few cables out few in but if I understand wiring correctly I am unable to instal this fitting due to no earth from supply. Is there a safe way to install this light fitting? I attach photos of current installation and new fitting

 

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  • muffinek
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  • Hasbeen
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    Its a metal light fitting class 1 that does require an earth. If it was class 2 then double insulated and ok.
    Take it back.

    Old style wiring. Ensure you do not have any metal light switches fitted!

    I would not install but my opinion only.

    The world is not ruined by the wickedness of the wicked, but by the weakness of the good. Napoleon
  • cajef
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    muffinek said:
    Is there a safe way to install this light fitting? 
     
    Only if you can run a separate properly earthed wire to the fitting.
  • Ectophile
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    edited 8 July 2020 at 7:36PM
    There's something a bit odd there.  Your house wiring appears to be brown and blue, which first started being used in UK houses around 2006.  But installing an earth wire in a lighting circuit has been a requirement since about 1965.
    If you trace where those brown and blue wires are coming from, is there an earth wire tucked away somewhere?  Or has some cowboy wired it with a random bit of two-core flex?
    If it sticks, force it.
    If it breaks, well it wasn't working right anyway.
  • grumbler
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    Ectophile said:
    If you trace where those brown and blue wires are coming from, is there an earth wire tucked away somewhere?  Or has some cowboy wired it with a random bit of two-core flex?
    A terminal block is visible above the rose. Possibly connecting short new wires to some old cable.

  • Hasbeen
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    grumbler said:
    Ectophile said:
    If you trace where those brown and blue wires are coming from, is there an earth wire tucked away somewhere?  Or has some cowboy wired it with a random bit of two-core flex?
    A terminal block is visible above the rose. Possibly connecting short new wires to some old cable.

    Better eyesight than me LOL. But it does look like it.

    Op ensure power is off and unscrew the 2 Philips screws and take clear plastic fitting down.

    Gently pull the red and blue wires down to pull plastic connector through hole in ceiling.

    There should be 3 separate wires connected, earth included.  If so connect to that.


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