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Started new Job, just got contract not what agreed to advice needed

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  • AW618
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    Comms69 said:
    AW618 said:
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    Mickey154 said:
    Comms69 I dont mean to be rude but please dont reply if you cant give helpful advice. 

    If what your saying is true. Then your saying all employers are allowed to lie and for example advertise a jobs as £40000 a year and then only pay you £5000 a year. If that so how can any one trust  job ads or apply for any job if it's all lies.
    Also whats the point on a contract if a employer can do what they want. Doesnt that defeat the point of having a contract.

    Yes and no.
    If you have evidence of what was agreed you could almost certainly hold them to that for the time you have already worked and indeed for your notice period if, as I imagine they would, you are given notice.

    You might be able to make a claim for at least the 80% furlough during the lock down period. With less than two years service they could have dismissed you but it seems they didn't?

    You cannot stop them from dismissing you now (with notice) if you don't agree to the new terms so it may come down to future work on these terms or potentially a claim for what you should have had so far but no future job.

    And in the current market that's a pretty bleak outlook
    So is a zero hour contract unless the OP genuinely believes the firm will regularly give him an adequate number of hours.
    So some work is worse than no work?
    Your answers are entirely predicated on the assumption that the OP cannot get another job.  Knowing as little as you do of them, you cannot make that assumption, and if you are going to give answers based upon it you should say so explicitly.
    There is nothing stopping the OP working & looking for a new job.... 
    I fail to see any relevance in that.  One option in this situation would be to resign giving proper notice and tell them you expect the work you have done and the notice to be paid at the agreed rate, then get another job.   You have no idea whatsoever of how employable the OP is - you certainly didn't when you gave your first answer - but you jumped to the conclusion they should somehow be grateful for the employment, and should work on rather than quit.  Not everyone is unemployable, and plenty of people have sufficient means that it doesn't matter to them if they end up without a salary for a few weeks or months.  Giving advice as though everyone is in this position without stating those assumptions is not useful.
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    OP go back to the agency and take the matter up with them, they would have been paid by the employer as a % of your salary, get them to clarify what the job hour are / were.
    Next I would ask for a meeting with the HR department or your line manager and explain the interview / terms / salary and see what they say, it 'could ' be an oversight.
    Re no pay for 3 months or so, do you qualify for universal credit? if so get applying and see if it can be backdated, I am sure somewhere on this site there is help over UC  / benefits etc.
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  • Comms69
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    AW618 said:
    Comms69 said:
    AW618 said:
    Comms69 said:
    Comms69 said:
    Mickey154 said:
    Comms69 I dont mean to be rude but please dont reply if you cant give helpful advice. 

    If what your saying is true. Then your saying all employers are allowed to lie and for example advertise a jobs as £40000 a year and then only pay you £5000 a year. If that so how can any one trust  job ads or apply for any job if it's all lies.
    Also whats the point on a contract if a employer can do what they want. Doesnt that defeat the point of having a contract.

    Yes and no.
    If you have evidence of what was agreed you could almost certainly hold them to that for the time you have already worked and indeed for your notice period if, as I imagine they would, you are given notice.

    You might be able to make a claim for at least the 80% furlough during the lock down period. With less than two years service they could have dismissed you but it seems they didn't?

    You cannot stop them from dismissing you now (with notice) if you don't agree to the new terms so it may come down to future work on these terms or potentially a claim for what you should have had so far but no future job.

    And in the current market that's a pretty bleak outlook
    So is a zero hour contract unless the OP genuinely believes the firm will regularly give him an adequate number of hours.
    So some work is worse than no work?
    Your answers are entirely predicated on the assumption that the OP cannot get another job.  Knowing as little as you do of them, you cannot make that assumption, and if you are going to give answers based upon it you should say so explicitly.
    There is nothing stopping the OP working & looking for a new job.... 
    I fail to see any relevance in that.  One option in this situation would be to resign giving proper notice and tell them you expect the work you have done and the notice to be paid at the agreed rate, then get another job.   You have no idea whatsoever of how employable the OP is - you certainly didn't when you gave your first answer - but you jumped to the conclusion they should somehow be grateful for the employment, and should work on rather than quit.  Not everyone is unemployable, and plenty of people have sufficient means that it doesn't matter to them if they end up without a salary for a few weeks or months.  Giving advice as though everyone is in this position without stating those assumptions is not useful.
    Considering this is the 3rd thread the OP has on the employment board I can take a guess. 

    And given the OP has been without pay for months and the expected salary is hardly massive, I can again draw logical conclusions. 

    But that’s not what I said in my first post anyway. 
  • marlot
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    Mickey154 said:
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    I was given my contract to sign yesterday. I bought it home to read first. But on reading it, it's not what I agreed to when accepting Job.
    ...
    This is why I always advise people to get a contract before resigning their old job.
    Lots of employers will baulk at it, and have a policy of only issuing the contract after the person has started - and I think that stinks.  But it's worth trying - fortunately I always succeeded.
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