PCN - Parking & Property Management Ltd.

penniejane

nosferatu1001 said:

given it says 30 days, does it state they WILL take you to court?
If so it mayt be a letter before claim./ Trouble  is your paraphrasing does not help

Hi Nosferatu
Yes, they say they will take it to the County Court after 30 days from the date of the letter.  I have issued an SAR to the Parking and Property Management LTD, to their data email address and I have emailed the Solicitors, BWLegal with the cover letter as advised in this fab forum.  I'm a bit confused as what to do next...  Do I still need to appeal with an MCOL?
TIA
(BTW - not sure what was wrong with my paraphrasing?! )

KeithP

Having now received a Letter of Claim, you now need to be reading the first few paragraphs of the second post of the NEWBIES thread where you will find good guidance on how to deal with it.

penniejane

KeithP said:

Having now received a Letter of Claim, you now need to be reading the first few paragraphs of the second post of the NEWBIES thread where you will find good guidance on how to deal with it.

Hi Keith - I have done the SAR and sent it to the email and also emailed the solicitor but not sure what to do after that.  Do I still need to appeal? TIA

KeithP

PinkPJs said:

KeithP said:

Having now received a Letter of Claim, you now need to be reading the first few paragraphs of the second post of the NEWBIES thread where you will find good guidance on how to deal with it.

Do I still need to appeal? 

No, you do not.

nosferatu1001

MCOL is a system
IT is used to i8ssue claims
You never ever appeal, you defend, and only if they actually file
Your paraphrasing was not clear that they WILL take it to court. 

penniejane

I keep re-reading but can only see info on if you are Parking Eye.
I think I need to see what comes back re Parking Company re SAR and the Solictors - BW Legal?
This site and your help has been a God send!

Le_Kirk

PinkPJs said:

I keep re-reading but can only see info on if you are Parking Eye.
I think I need to see what comes back re Parking Company re SAR and the Solictors - BW Legal?
This site and your help has been a God send!

What do you keep re-reading?  Can you see the Standard Defence Template on the first page of the forum?  It is one of the first five "Announcements" all coloured with that horrible pink/purple/puce colour so you cannot miss it.

D_P_Dance

My appeal has since then been declined and a further charge added and accruing £160.  

By adding an extra (probably unlawful), £60 they may have shou themselve in the foot, read this

Excel v Wilkinson

At the Bradford County Court, District Judge Claire Jackson (now HHJ Jackson, a Specialist Civil Circuit Judge) decided to hear a 'test case' a few months ago, where £60 had been added to a parking charge despite Judges up and down the country repeatedly disallowing that sum and warning parking firms not to waste court time with such spurious claims.   That case was Excel v Wilkinson: G4QZ465V, heard in July 2020 and leave to appeal was refused and that route was not pursued.  The Judge concluded that such claims are proceedings with 'an improper collateral purpose'.   This Judge - and others who have since copied her words and struck dozens of cases out in late 2020 and into 2021 - went into significant detail and concluded that parking operators (such as this Claimant) are seeking to circumvent CPR 27.14 as well as breaching the Consumer Rights Act 2015.   DJ Hickinbottom has recently struck more cases out in that court area, stating: ''I find that striking out this claim is the only appropriate manner in which the disapproval of the court can be shown''.

Fruitcake

PinkPJs said:

I keep re-reading but can only see info on if you are Parking Eye.
I think I need to see what comes back re Parking Company re SAR and the Solictors - BW Legal?
This site and your help has been a God send!

But ParkingLie is the exception.

Did you miss all of this?

As well as the SAR to the parking firm's DPO, also write another email, if they are using Gladstones, DCLegal, BW Legal or other solicitor.
Your email tells the solicitor:
(a) I am seeking debt advice but I deny any debt and the case must be put 'on hold' for not less than 30 days under the PAP for debt claims 2017.
(b) I have sent your client a SAR
(c) also confirm your correct 'address for service' if you've moved and the PPC has two addresses.

In EVERY case (not just P/Eye) complain to the Landowner or retailer, and LBC stage is your chance. When faced with a polite but ''angry customer who will never return'' complaint many retailers cancel these. DO NOT WRITE THAT YOU WISH TO 'APPEAL'. Nope, it's a complaint!

penniejane

Fruitcake said:

PinkPJs said:

I keep re-reading but can only see info on if you are Parking Eye.
I think I need to see what comes back re Parking Company re SAR and the Solictors - BW Legal?
This site and your help has been a God send!

But ParkingLie is the exception.

Did you miss all of this?

As well as the SAR to the parking firm's DPO, also write another email, if they are using Gladstones, DCLegal, BW Legal or other solicitor.
Your email tells the solicitor:
(a) I am seeking debt advice but I deny any debt and the case must be put 'on hold' for not less than 30 days under the PAP for debt claims 2017.
(b) I have sent your client a SAR
(c) also confirm your correct 'address for service' if you've moved and the PPC has two addresses.

In EVERY case (not just P/Eye) complain to the Landowner or retailer, and LBC stage is your chance. When faced with a polite but ''angry customer who will never return'' complaint many retailers cancel these. DO NOT WRITE THAT YOU WISH TO 'APPEAL'. Nope, it's a complaint!

Hi Fruitcake
I have done all of the above
Is there anything else I need to do?
The Parking company have replied already with all information held about me. - What now?
TIA