Furlough Abuse ?

suki1964

tarquers said:

I am fully aware of the situation, just being vague to avoid any possibility of scrutiny of the actual details.

This definitely means more work for those around, and many of those also have children and/or other personal issues.

I just think if the principle was top protect jobs and companies, then some of the furloughing doesn't seem quite right to me.

I also "know of" (see above) a company who have furloughed their drivers, then opened back up and are employing a 3rd party to do their deliveries.

As we all have to pay this back eventually, I just don't think the spirit of this is taken into account.

Its perfectly acceptable to furlough staff and then use casual staff on an as and when required basis.

Im on furlough from my place of work and the staff I work along with have to do my work load. The reason Im furloughed is that although there is plenty of work 2 days a week, the rest of the week we are scratching around and stretching it out

One of our drivers is also on furlough, on the days we need more drivers, the boss's retired dad steps up

Another lass is on furlough, the area she works in can really only support one worker at the moment , if an extra order comes in and the lone worker is getting it tight, then anyone of the staff still in work can jump on the line and get the order out

We are furloughed to safe guard our jobs moving forward. I was only put on furlough two weeks ago, up till then there was enough work. Now the fact theres less money in peoples pockets means our work load is dropping

tarquers

onwards&upwards said:

bradders1983 said:

It certainly isnt in the spirit of the scheme but sadly yes, the scheme is now being used as a "I cant get childcare" scheme when work is actually available. The sooner the scheme ends, the better.

But they genuinely can't get childcare.  Schools aren't open, and relatives aren't allowed. 

I get that it must be frustrating for the staff still working, but children can't just be left home alone! 

The people in question are all working from home, so no child is home alone. Also all the people in question pretty much have kids at home, so all are balancing looking after them with working, just really seems like an excuse for some people.

The extra work the others are having to put in is also no better for their mental health than the ones putting pressure on their company in this case for voluntary furlough by another name.

I don't get some of the "blame the government" comments here. We locked down pretty early & put a strong system in force to protect jobs, just some people will always look for the loop holes, which is clearly why this particular case has come through just before the cut off.

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bradders1983 said:

It certainly isnt in the spirit of the scheme but sadly yes, the scheme is now being used as a "I cant get childcare" scheme when work is actually available. The sooner the scheme ends, the better.

.. And you expect people to live on fresh air? 

bradders1983

No, i expect a Job Retention Scheme to only be used as such.

sharpe106

bradders1983 said:

No, i expect a Job Retention Scheme to only be used as such.

True I agree but the government pretty much changed it mind after a few days what they wanted it to be. Without actually redesigning it just hoping that struggling business would sort it all out for them, or failing that get the blame. 

EssJayD

How refreshing to hear an employer taking into account some working parents may struggle more than others.  Great that they can take advantage of the scheme to keep a working parent in employment and earning so they can pay taxes back 

bradders1983

EssJayD said:

How refreshing to hear an employer taking into account some working parents may struggle more than others.  Great that they can take advantage of the scheme to keep a working parent in employment and earning so they can pay taxes back 

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Grumpy_chap

All those that find every excuse not to go back to work are going to be first in line to never go back to work.
We now have furlough reducing down (and costing employers more) from August but schools will not be back before September.  Either the parents have to find a child-care solution, or the employer's have to solve it by giving the parents more time.

Splatfoot

There is no childcare solution. As it's now illegal to have a relative in your house looking after your kids so you can go to work, parents are going to be stuffed. 

bradders1983

Illegal yes. Enforceable? Hmm.