Nissan env200 combi battery range

jimbo6977

These would seem to be the closest match to my needs if I were to go for an ev, but at 30k new I would need to go for used. 

So I found this "beauty" of an ex minicab on Autotrader but if you look at photo 12 it seems to show battery charged at 100% bit the range to be just 85mi in eco mode. 
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/cars/nissan/e-nv200/2016#sub-nav-2

This would suggest the battery has lost 50% or more of its capacity over its 111000mi as a minicab. 

Does this seem about right?

silverwhistle

it seems high, but posting on the SpeakEV forum might get an informed response.

mattyprice4004

Not sure beauty is the word I'd use for a 100k + leggy electric van, plonked on Landsail-branded tyres. 
Doesn't scream 'well looked after' to me! 

AdrianC

The link takes me to a search of new vans.

I assume this is the one you're looking at?
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/202004188987796

£11k. A third of new price, for a 4yo high-demand vehicle.
The image in question:

Official range for a van of that age was 106 miles from the 24kWh battery - new ones have a 40kWh battery - so, no, it's not "lost 50% of the capacity"... If anything, it's held up surprisingly well to still be getting 80% of NEDC range after 110k miles.

daveyjp

IIRC they used the same battery as first gen Leaf at 24kw.  When I drove one it said about 90 miles when fully charged, so that van is doing well.

jimbo6977

Thanks for the replies, can't seem to correct the link. Didn't know the older ones were on a lower capacity battery. Agree probably not well looked after, was a minicab after all. Looks like I need a 40kw model but they're pricey. 

DrEskimo

As above, the battery capacity for this model is lower than current models.

It's important that the quoted mileage on the dash is NOT an indicator of battery health. It is generally referred to as the Guess-O-Meter (GoM)....it basically tries to predict range based on previous driving, so if the last drive you drove 10/20miles at 100mph the GOM would be predicting a much lower range. If you drove at 3mph for over an hour it would be showing a rather optimistic range...Just as with any petrol car, predicting actual range is very dependent on the speed, temp, roads, wind, inclines, etc. There are general guides you can use to get a rough estimate though.

The only real way to determine the battery health is to get a OBD reader and LeafSpy App and you can check all the battery statistics. 

almillar

Yep, the range you see there is a result of the condition the battery is is, but also of how the van has been driven recently. If it's been up and down the motorway, 85 is a conservative estimate, if it's been tootling around, you'll get 85 if you tootle around too. To really checl, follow DrEskimo's advice and check the SOH (State of Health) of the battery. I'd be happy with 90+% on 100k miles with Leaf (old) technology.