SEISS eligibility

sghughes42

Just a quick one, and I reading it right that eligibility for the self employment grant is based on your income in the past rather than at present?

I didn't qualify originally as the income from my employment was more than 50% of the total, however as I'm about to lose my job that will cease to be the case. I'm trying to work out if this makes me eligible for the second grant or if they just go on the last tax return and current circumstances aren't considered?

poppy12345

It's based on past income. It can't be based on future income because you don't know what that's going to be yet. No one knows exactly what the criteria is going to be for the 2nd grant yet.

sghughes42

Not so much saying future income, I'm meaning income at the time the grant will be paid. I'm likely to have no employment income from the end of this month so by August will be reliant on my self employed income only. While the grant would be small it would be better than nothing in the circumstances.

poppy12345

No one knows what the criteria for the next SEISS is going to be until the 12 June.

Pingoo

Hi, it looks like the 2nd grant will have the same criteria as the first .If you have a look at the "self employed & small ltd co help" page on this site, it states this  -"The eligibility criteria are the same for both grants, and you don't need to have claimed the first grant to receive the second grant."

Grumpy_chap

@Pingoo - if someone was eligible for the grants, why would they claim the second grant but not have bothered to claim the first grant?

calcotti

Grumpy_chap said:

@Pingoo - if someone was eligible for the grants, why would they claim the second grant but not have bothered to claim the first grant?

They may not have suffered a downturn in business to date but might suffer some later. I don't expect many will be in that position but it is possible.
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/chancellor-extends-self-employment-support-scheme-and-confirms-furlough-next-steps

An individual does not need to have claimed the first grant to receive the second grant: for example, they may only have been adversely affected by COVID-19 in this later phase.

calcotti

sghughes42 said: I didn't qualify originally as the income from my employment was more than 50% of the total, however as I'm about to lose my job that will cease to be the case. I'm trying to work out if this makes me eligible for the second grant or if they just go on the last tax return and current circumstances aren't considered?

The qualifying criteria will be the same, based on income from 2016 -19. If you were not eligible for the first grant based on your income in this period you will not be eligible for the second grant either.
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/chancellor-extends-self-employment-support-scheme-and-confirms-furlough-next-steps

The eligibility criteria are the same for both grants, and individuals will need to confirm that their business has been adversely affected by coronavirus. 

blagig12345

can not get grant  has seiss  use draw down from pension  in criteria  any ideas

calcotti

blagig12345 said:

can not get grant  has seiss  use draw down from pension  in criteria  any ideas

If you want an answer you are going to have to put your question more clearly.

poppy12345

blagig12345 said:

can not get grant  has seiss  use draw down from pension  in criteria  any ideas

You've asked your question on someone else's thread. Please start your own thread with more clear information.