Self employment grant

jmml

Q. I’m not allowed to work within my profession yet, my partner works out of Heathrow as a taxi driver... there is no work! He has started a minimum wage part time delivery job as an employee as we couldn’t survive financially till the initial self employment grant was paid out. Will he still be eligible for the August pay out??? He intends on going back to being self employed.... but will he have to pay the grant back if he doesn’t due to the fact there is no work??? He has to pay out £250 weekly for the rent of his cab... after 3 weeks of this being put on a credit card at the end of Feb/March it was time to give it up and going to be a ‘gamble’ going back until flights resume to some kind of normal!! 

Jeremy535897

We will only see the details on 12 June, but it seems very likely that your partner would qualify for the second grant, so long as he intends to continue to trade.

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Yes he will be able to claim the second SEISS grant, no he will not have to pay it back if he does not go back to work. He has intend to continue to trade once circumstances allow, so if for example he returned his cab to the rental company then that might be taken as a sign he no longer intended to continue trading unless he retained an option to re-lease it once work became available again. 
My view would be to claim the grant if he genuinely intends to return to work driving a cab when possible.

jmml

Many thanks for replies. We are still paying £50 weekly (on the credit card!) just So insured and use locally for personal use... so hopefully that will prove intention for future trade. 

carlos21

I started self employment in February 2019 and was employed prior to this, So when completing my tax return for the tax year 2018/19 I only had roughly 2 months worth of trading as self employed  before tax year finished. When trying to make a claim for SEISS, HMRC are saying that because my profit from when I was employed is more from what I earned when self employed I basically ran at a loss so I am unable to Claim. But they are not taking into account that I only had two months of trading as self employed so would be nearly impossible to make more than I did in 10 month of employed work for that tax year. Surely the profit I made as an employed worker is irrelevant to my SEISS? Anyone got any advice or know where to try and appeal this further? Thanks in advance. 

Jeremy535897

carlos21 said:

I started self employment in February 2019 and was employed prior to this, So when completing my tax return for the tax year 2018/19 I only had roughly 2 months worth of trading as self employed  before tax year finished. When trying to make a claim for SEISS, HMRC are saying that because my profit from when I was employed is more from what I earned when self employed I basically ran at a loss so I am unable to Claim. But they are not taking into account that I only had two months of trading as self employed so would be nearly impossible to make more than I did in 10 month of employed work for that tax year. Surely the profit I made as an employed worker is irrelevant to my SEISS? Anyone got any advice or know where to try and appeal this further? Thanks in advance. 

A number of people have raised the part year issue with HMRC, and had their appeals rejected. The rules are clear and take no account of the amount of time in the tax year that you were self employed.