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Ant difference in tarrifs between the manual meter and smart meter ones

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  • Carrot007
    Carrot007 Posts: 4,534 Forumite
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    MWT said:
    What exactly isn't 'proper' about the Octopus Agile TOU tariff?
    Prices changes every 30 mins and follows the wholesale energy price for electricity in a predefined manner...
    It even goes negative when wholesale prices are negative...
    Seems to be the very definition of a smart TOU tariff...

    My point was it was not the sort of tarrif that in any way requires a smart meter. (as far as I can see).

    I was not saying it was not TOU. All tarrifs are TOU if you want to argue that far.

    The type of TOU that smart meter could bring is very different. I have yet to see one.

    But of course smart meters are the governments thing. Thats why all the companies make no domestic money....
  • Talldave
    Talldave Posts: 2,002 Forumite
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    Carrot007 said:
    The type of TOU that smart meter could bring is very different. I have yet to see one.
    Could you be more specific on how your idea of TOU tariff differs from Agile?
    The one feature I look forward to and is not even on the horizon yet is the ability to switch supplier for a few hours at a time. For example,  occasionally using a different supplier overnight to charge a car when there's an offer on.
  • Ectophile
    Ectophile Posts: 7,971 Forumite
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    Carrot007 said:
    MWT said:
    What exactly isn't 'proper' about the Octopus Agile TOU tariff?
    Prices changes every 30 mins and follows the wholesale energy price for electricity in a predefined manner...
    It even goes negative when wholesale prices are negative...
    Seems to be the very definition of a smart TOU tariff...

    My point was it was not the sort of tarrif that in any way requires a smart meter. (as far as I can see).

    I was not saying it was not TOU. All tarrifs are TOU if you want to argue that far.

    The type of TOU that smart meter could bring is very different. I have yet to see one.

    But of course smart meters are the governments thing. Thats why all the companies make no domestic money....
    Perhaps you need to explain what you mean by a TOU tariff, because nobody else seems to understand.
    If it sticks, force it.
    If it breaks, well it wasn't working right anyway.
  • MWT
    MWT Posts: 10,210 Forumite
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    Carrot007 said:
    My point was it was not the sort of tarrif that in any way requires a smart meter. (as far as I can see).
    How on earth would you deliver a tariff like Agile that changes the price of the energy consumed every 30 mins without a smart meter?
    Do please describe the sort of tariff that you believe does actually require a smart meter?

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