Paint Disaster

Hi all
I am new to this forum so here goes.
Whilst on furlough I have been painting my wooden gates and the doors on our summer house.
I put some timber paint on both wooden gates (some of it is rough wood and some of it is smooth wood) a few days after putting the paint on it rained and some of the paint was wet to touch.
I then bought some Ronseal fence life plus (this is for rough and smooth wood), I gave it 2 coats but approx 5 days after applying it the rain came again, and again the paint was wet when I touched it in certain parts. (Any ideas why).
Regarding the summer house, there are 3 doors on the summer house which I stained a few years ago, I read on the Internet that I should prime before using paint (I didn't want  to stain them again).
After putting primer on the doors I used Ronseal fence life plus the day after (can be used on rough and smooth wood), the next day I went to put a 2nd coat of fence life plus on and I noticed because it had been raining for 1/2 hour 2 days after the first coat that again the paint was wet to touch, also when I went to apply the 2nd coat of fence life plus the brush was taking some of the first coat off back to the primer (again any ideas).
What do I need to do as I am going round in circles.
Thank you 
Simon.






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  • squiggles
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    Try this section of the forum as there will be someone with more knowledge https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/categories/in-my-home-includes-diy-moneysaving
  • 25_Years_On
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    This stuff is supposed to soak in to an extent. I would have thought a primer would be a really bad idea. Also it depends a lot on the wood and previous treatments. Also it's horrible stuff. I wouldn't let any of these types of paint near any of my fences.
  • Bradden
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    This stuff is supposed to soak in to an extent. I would have thought a primer would be a really bad idea. Also it depends a lot on the wood and previous treatments. Also it's horrible stuff. I wouldn't let any of these types of paint near any of my fences.
    Thanks... if someone wanted to stain their fence/shed what would you recommend?
  • 25_Years_On
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    Bradden said:
    This stuff is supposed to soak in to an extent. I would have thought a primer would be a really bad idea. Also it depends a lot on the wood and previous treatments. Also it's horrible stuff. I wouldn't let any of these types of paint near any of my fences.
    Thanks... if someone wanted to stain their fence/shed what would you recommend?
    A preserver like Ronseal Shed and Fence Preserver or a protector like Barretine Wood Protector.
  • Cornucopia
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    edited 12 May 2020 at 6:54PM
    Thread moved to In My Home.
  • squiggles
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    I’m wondering if your summer house has been coated in a protective oil in the factory and that’s why your ronseal isn’t soaking in the wood and leaving just layered over it that will not dry. Like trying to put a Teflon coating on your pan after you’ve fried an egg, sorry it’s the only description I can think of.

    As the ronseal stuff you have been using is water based (the tin should say clean brushes by using soapy water) you could try using a shed protector that is solvent based (clean brushes with white spirit) it might be best to see if any friends or neighbour have any spare first ever you can try it on an unseen part because of the expense experimenting.

    Apart from that idea I do not know, your previous coating would have been rain proof within an hour and should have dried.

  • Shouldn’t of Primed the fence     (read the tin next time)  the wood stain soaks in the wood that’s how it works, you stopped that by priming the fence, It sat on top of the wood, therefore it rained and came off unfortunately you change the properties of it by by it not soaking in. 

    Stain is more forgiving than paint – it also may not require primer, and you don't have to work so hard to get a uniform color. If you have a textured or rough-hewn fence style, stain will work much better than paint.

    To Sort the Problem you will have to sand the whole fence back to bear wood and make sure you get all the primer off the fence, then redo It sorry but that’s the only way. Make Sure you get a fence that’s treated next time then you won’t have to paint the fence my friend 👍
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