Self employed scheme and UC

poppy12345

martin0200 said:

Sorry, but is that for the period from 27th March until now or from now on?

It will affect your UC in the month that it's received. What are your assessment period dates?

calcotti

martin0200 said:

Thank you for your reply. So basically what you are saying is that if I am receiving SEISS then that will take me over the threshold for UC and I won't receive it or I may receive it but will then have to repay it.

You will not have to pay back any UC you have already received as a normal payment. As explained your UC entitlement will be reduced from the point when you receive it and this may affect more than 1 month depending on the amounts received.
The advance will have to be repaid at some point but this should be from your future UC payments. If your work picks up such that you never have an entitlement then it will be a debt.

Jeremy535897

martin0200 said:

Sorry, but is that for the period from 27th March until now or from now on?

UC is not withdrawn. The SEISS grant will be treated as income in the assessment period in which it is received, with the consequences outlined in other posts for that period and possibly the next.

JoannaMum

Can anyone help,  We are on UC and applied for SEISS, which we received this month but then only £70 in UC.  Thats fine, but we had to ask our landlord to take half rent during this with a view to paying back with the grant. However now we don't have enough to pay back what we owe in rent.  Can we get any further help?   

Jeremy535897

JoannaMum said:

Can anyone help,  We are on UC and applied for SEISS, which we received this month but then only £70 in UC.  Thats fine, but we had to ask our landlord to take half rent during this with a view to paying back with the grant. However now we don't have enough to pay back what we owe in rent.  Can we get any further help?   

There is a further SEISS grant due in August that should give you seven eighths of the first grant, assuming you remain eligible.

calcotti

JoannaMum said:

Can anyone help,  We are on UC and applied for SEISS, which we received this month but then only £70 in UC.  Thats fine, but we had to ask our landlord to take half rent during this with a view to paying back with the grant. However now we don't have enough to pay back what we owe in rent.  Can we get any further help?   

You will get your full UC in the next UC payment (subject to any other income you have in the meantime).

calcotti

Jeremy535897 said:

JoannaMum said:

Can anyone help,  We are on UC and applied for SEISS, which we received this month but then only £70 in UC.  Thats fine, but we had to ask our landlord to take half rent during this with a view to paying back with the grant. However now we don't have enough to pay back what we owe in rent.  Can we get any further help?   

There is a further SEISS grant due in August that should give you seven eighths of the first grant, assuming you remain eligible.

But it will again reduce the UC payable for that month.

helenlacey123

What I don’t understand is why u/c don’t take into account the fact that the grant is awarded in one lump sum but covers three months. Why are we not allowed 3x our work allowance in the month we receive the grant. Not having this taken into account has lost me £700 of u/c with no notice. It feels as thought we are penalised for being on u/c as what the government gives with one hand it is taking with the other...so effectively I receive less ‘grant’ than someone who receives no u/c support. How is that fair? Even the people I have spoken to at DWP have said it doesn’t really make sense...surely there must be loads of people in this position? Any thoughts?

poppy12345

helenlacey123 said:

What I don’t understand is why u/c don’t take into account the fact that the grant is awarded in one lump sum but covers three months. Why are we not allowed 3x our work allowance in the month we receive the grant. Not having this taken into account has lost me £700 of u/c with no notice. It feels as thought we are penalised for being on u/c as what the government gives with one hand it is taking with the other...so effectively I receive less ‘grant’ than someone who receives no u/c support. How is that fair? Even the people I have spoken to at DWP have said it doesn’t really make sense...surely there must be loads of people in this position? Any thoughts?

Whether we agree or not unfortunately it's how UC is worked out. Even if you receive a tax rebate, it's always classed as income in the month it's received. That's what UC is all about. There's nothing anyone can do. Next month if you receive no earnings during your assessment period then you'll receive your maximum UC entitlement.

calcotti

helenlacey123 said:

...so effectively I receive less ‘grant’ than someone who receives no u/c support. How is that fair? 

But are still getting more support overall because of the UC you have had and will get again (if needed).

helenlacey123 said:

Not having this taken into account has lost me £700 of u/c with no notice. 

Government have been clear that SEISS would be taken into account as earnings for those claiming UC so I don’t see that it was without notice.