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Company say no guarantee work after furlough

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  • LilElvis
    LilElvis Posts: 5,835 Forumite
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    Sparx8 said:
    I’m just following government guidelines . I wouldn’t say wiring a building for a co-op is an essential job when there is one down the road, with 100 people of many are foreigners and don’t keep the 2 meter rule. 
    There's no guideline that says you can choose to stay at home if your employer has work for you. There's no guideline that only essential work can be done.
  • bradders1983
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    edited 30 April 2020 at 4:01PM
    I would say keeping a Co-op open by ensuring it is wired correctly is very essential.

    As already said, bosses will remember who showed willing and who doesnt. As for you saying you are following government guidelines, you have clearly misunderstood them. It says work from home where possible. Be interested to know how you can rewire a supermarket from home.
  • Undervalued
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    ^^^^^ Quite!
    Plus, it doesn't have to be an "essential" job. Why do people choose not to understand that!
  • Grumpy_chap
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    Sparx8 said:
    I wouldn’t say wiring a building for a co-op is an essential job when there is one down the road, with 100 people of many are foreigners and don’t keep the 2 meter rule. 
    It seems clear that getting this new Co-Op wired and open is essential as then it will mean it is easier for everyone to keep the social distancing as the people currently going to the one down the road will then be able to have the choice of two stores and more space between the two stores for everyone to spread out.
    Whether the people at the store down the road are foreigners or not is irrelevant.

    The furlough scheme is not there to allow people to take a comfortable holiday at tax-payer expense, it is there to allow employers to keep jobs open while they are unable to employ people because of coronoavirus.  Staff that are furloughed should be available to return to work once that work becomes possible.  Unable to work because of coronavirus might mean they had to pause work on wiring a new Co-Op store while they worked out how this could be done safely with the social distancing and other constraints imposed by coronavirus.  If the employer has now worked this out and put new procedures in place, then they will want to get everyon back to work as soon as possible.

    It sounds like you are lucky to have work to go back to.  Not at all clear why you aren't happy to return.  Construction, per se, was never one of the business areas that was suspended by the Government, but many construction sites did stop initially while they were able to assess the way forward.
  • lopsyfa
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    Your employer is quite nice. Some other employer will actually pull you from furlough and make you redundant if you choose not to come to work. As has already been mentioned, he can do it.
  • Fire_Fox
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    edited 30 April 2020 at 10:43PM
    Sparx8 said:
    I’m just following government guidelines . I wouldn’t say wiring a building for a co-op is an essential job when there is one down the road, with 100 people of many are foreigners and don’t keep the 2 meter rule. 
    Our National Health Service relies on workers from overseas; indeed the two Intensive Care nurses singled out by our Prime Minister after his treatment for COVID-19 were from Portugal and New Zealand. 

    British farmers have been warning of potential food shortages later in the year because European migrant workers are not arriving as they usually would.

    Not essential, eh?
    Declutterbug-in-progress.⭐️⭐️⭐️ ⭐️⭐️
  • I'm just glad we aren't in world war three I really am.
    Imagine pulling in a 45 hour week, solidly each week (an no I'm not talking about also cleaning one's oven on the employer's home working hours) to be paid £1177 after tax deducts for the entire month's pay when it arrives, you are well over 25 years of age, you can't get another job because it isn't allowed, you've had enough abuse from employers pre-covid who thought they knew a job flacker, the only saving grace turns out they really knew nothing.
  • sharpe106
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    Sparx8 said:

    Company rang me up and have asked me to return to a work , I said I wasn’t happy about it as the government have extended furlough for atleast two more weeks . He said he respected my opinion and that he can’t force me back to work , but then followed up with well the people that do want to come back now will be first priority to carry on working after the furlough and the ones that don’t well he can’t guarantee their be anywork for when I return . And that I would have to stay at home after furlough until there’s work unpaid . 

    Can he do this? I feel like I jumped to being employed for a bit of stability but seems like it’s not different from when I was self employed if they can get rid of you when they want . 

    Kind regards 

    When you were self-employed did you ever employ somebody? What would you have done in your employers situation. I don’t think getting rid of somebody because they refused to work is unreasonable as that is what you pay them for.  


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