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BW Legal claim - 2 pcn's

Clue is in the name, total amount claimed just under £400 with:

£50 legal costs
£35 court fee
£14.46
Due to parking in a car park with no ticket showing (albeit for 2 minutes).

Both claims from Jan and June19
AOS submitted and defence due on the 5th of May.
After reading the newbies thread i am going to put together a draft defence now to the best of my abilities. any tips?
sorry if this is not protocol
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  • Le_Kirk
    Le_Kirk Posts: 25,248 Forumite
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    If they have added £60 per PCN for debt collector/contractual/admin costs, then use the standard New Template Defence which will be found here: -
    https://www.dropbox.com/s/02dk9z3pe2kb72n/Template defence 2020 without C.docx?dl=0
    read it understand it and adjust paragraphs 16 & 17 to suit your circumstances.  Post ONLY those paragraphs here for critique.  If they haven't added spurious costs, go to the NEWBIE sticky second post and use one of the 16 template defences linked there.
  • beamerguy
    beamerguy Posts: 17,587 Forumite
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    total amount claimed just under £400 with
    Take away the amounts above, you have two tickets, have BWLegal added a fake £60 to each ???
  • Redx
    Redx Posts: 38,084 Forumite
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    edited 29 April 2020 at 9:22AM
    Use the Feb 2020 template defence by coupon mad , adapting the 2 paragraphs 16 and 17 , plus ensure you use the April 2020 statement of truth as well

    Name the parking company

    Email a SAR to the DPO at the PPC and attach a copy of the claim form as proof of I D under the GDPR
  • Umkomaas
    Umkomaas Posts: 43,864 Forumite
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    Due to parking in a car park with no ticket showing (albeit for 2 minutes).
    Same contravention on two separate occasions - just two minutes each?  Which parking company?
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.

    Private Parking Firms - Killing the High Street
  • madting13
    madting13 Posts: 21 Forumite
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    total claim before "administration costs" is £214.46 including £14.46 interest. £100 claimed for contractual costs as set out in t's and c's.

    Parking company is UK PARKING PATROL OFFICE LIMITED.

    Will send off a SAR to them today and am currently drafting a copy of the 2020 defence. Will post p. 16 and 17 here once completed.
  • nosferatu1001
    nosferatu1001 Posts: 12,961 Forumite
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    edited 29 April 2020 at 9:27AM
    So its the usual unlawful amounts
    You need to read the ABUSE OF PROCESS to understand the three separate laws or court cases they've violated. 
  • beamerguy
    beamerguy Posts: 17,587 Forumite
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    madting13 said:
    total claim before "administration costs" is £214.46 including £14.46 interest. £100 claimed for contractual costs as set out in t's and c's.

    Parking company is UK PARKING PATROL OFFICE LIMITED.

    Will send off a SAR to them today and am currently drafting a copy of the 2020 defence. Will post p. 16 and 17 here once completed.
    There are NO admin charges ?  NO contractual charge either
    £50 legal costs
    £35 court fee
    £14.46
    = £99.46

    What is the breakdown of the balance ??
  • madting13
    madting13 Posts: 21 Forumite
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    Total amount is 399.46
    £314.46 amount claimed
    £35 court fee
    £50 legal costs

    Of the £314.46:
    £214.46 is the monie claimed in respect of the PCN and £100 is a contractual cost as per T's and C's

  • nosferatu1001
    nosferatu1001 Posts: 12,961 Forumite
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    So they have added £50 for each PCN
    Unlawful
    They know it
    Have you read up on the ABUSE OF PROCESS this represents, so understand what we're talking about?
  • beamerguy
    beamerguy Posts: 17,587 Forumite
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    edited 29 April 2020 at 10:06AM
    So, you are saying £100 per ticket = £200 plus a further £100 fake add-on and as said there is no contractual charge.   Max should be £299.46.    BWLegal add on fake amounts which is abuse of process and they get spanked in court so, read this and don't be scammed

    Abuse of Process ... District Judge tells BWLegal
    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6014081/abuse-of-process-district-judge-tells-bwlegal/p1?new=1

    Now, because BWLegal have added a fake amount, the court fee is £35.  It should £25 as the REAL amount is £289.45  which should be £25
    https://www.gov.uk/make-court-claim-for-money/court-fees
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