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Not entitled to U/C, waste of time, advice needed.

First time applying for U/C so maybe a bit clueless. I'm claiming as a couple with 1 child. I'm working but partner isn't. Our allowance is £871.12. Our assessment period is 27th march to 26th april. First payment due 3rd may. On the 27th march i was paid my wages net £1197.23 & 24th April I was paid net £1372.55. Our first payment is now 0 because of earnings of £2569.78. How can they include march wages when that was to get me through april and already spent.  I don't understand it at all, it doesn't seem very fair. 

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  • poppy12345
    poppy12345 Posts: 18,909 Forumite
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    edited 27 April 2020 at 3:14PM
    UC entitlement depends on earnings received during your assessment period. As you received 2 wages during your AP then yes it's correct that your UC is reduced to zero. Earnings reduce the amount your entitled to by 63% if you don't have a work allowance.

    UC is paid 1 month in arrears. Next month if no earnings are received during your AP then you will receive the full amount of UC for your circumstances.
  • calcotti
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    edited 27 April 2020 at 3:34PM
    You have been very unfortunate, had you claimed a day later your March wages would not have been taken into account.
    If you are paid every 4 weeks rather than monthly this does impact UC entitlement in monthly assessment periods when two payments are received. If you are paid monthly but your employer has simply paid you a couple days early due to the weekend then they should have reported the wages as the normal due date not the date when they actually paid you. Having a monthly pay date which is very close to your UC AP dates can easily give rise to a problem - but is impossible to fix.
    Information I post is for England unless otherwise stated. Some rules may be different in other parts of UK.
  • ssdkck
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    Is my next assessment period 27th April to 26th may?  Do you know how much of my allowance would of been if they had of gone of my earnings of £1372.55. It states the first £500 is not affected and then I loose 63pence for every £1 
  • calcotti
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    ssdkck said: Is my next assessment period 27th April to 26th may?  
    Yes.
    ssdkck said: Do you know how much of my allowance would of been if they had of gone of my earnings of £1372.55. It states the first £500 is not affected and then I loose 63pence for every £1 
    Do the maths. Earnings deduction £1372.55 - £512 = £861.55 x 63% = £542.78
    UC payable = £871.12 - £542.78 = £328.34
    Information I post is for England unless otherwise stated. Some rules may be different in other parts of UK.
  • ssdkck
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    I have worked out my dates for wages paid in the second assessment period  and I will have zero earnings. So from reading the above post from poppy I should receive my full allowance. As my first payment is zero do I need to do a re claim or just leave it. 
  • calcotti
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    ssdkck said:
    I have worked out my dates for wages paid in the second assessment period  and I will have zero earnings. So from reading the above post from poppy I should receive my full allowance. As my first payment is zero do I need to do a re claim or just leave it. 
    At the present time I don’t think your claim will be closed but just keep an eye on your UC journal. If the claim is closed you will be able to do a rapid reclaim through the journal.  
    Information I post is for England unless otherwise stated. Some rules may be different in other parts of UK.
  • poppy12345
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    Yes, when no earnings are received during an AP you will receive the full UC amount for your circumstances. Sometimes a claim which has been reduced to zero will cause your UC claim end. If this has happened you can make a rapid reclaim through your journal. You will still have the same AP dates.
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