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  • J.J.W.
    J.J.W. Posts: 12 Forumite
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    davidmcn said:
    J.J.W. said:I am in the vulnerable category and fully recognise the situation we are all facing. 
    JTJ
    barbecues are generally social gatherings and the £80 worth of meat your butcher has seemingly "lost" the sale of suggests such a shindig was planned?
    To be fair, the OP may have a large and extremely carnivorous household.
    Like you would not believe!
    Regards
  • J.J.W.
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    davidmcn said:
    J.J.W. said:I am in the vulnerable category and fully recognise the situation we are all facing. 
    JTJ
    barbecues are generally social gatherings and the £80 worth of meat your butcher has seemingly "lost" the sale of suggests such a shindig was planned?
    To be fair, the OP may have a large and extremely carnivorous household.
    No wonder they feel vulnerable!
    Me or the animals?
    Its only me whos Vulnerable.
    Nothing to do with Meat. I specifically asked the Dr some decades ago.
    Regards
  • J.J.W.
    J.J.W. Posts: 12 Forumite
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    Thank you everybody.
    I have all the information I need now
    I cant lock a thread as answered, but will not be revisiting this until I have a more pertinent update.
    Regards
    JTJ
  • DoaM
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    J.J.W. said:
    davidmcn said:
    J.J.W. said:I am in the vulnerable category and fully recognise the situation we are all facing. 
    JTJ
    barbecues are generally social gatherings and the £80 worth of meat your butcher has seemingly "lost" the sale of suggests such a shindig was planned?
    To be fair, the OP may have a large and extremely carnivorous household.
    No wonder they feel vulnerable!
    Me or the animals?
    Its only me whos Vulnerable.
    Nothing to do with Meat. I specifically asked the Dr some decades ago.
    Regards
    It was a play on words ... jokingly suggesting that the other members of your household may have cannibalistic tendencies. :D
  • Fosterdog
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    Even if the bbq hadn't arrived damage you should not be lighting a bbq of any sort right now. The smoke and fumes (even from gas ones) can exasperate lung and chest conditions of people who are self isolating with symptoms leading them to need hospital care and being out in a respirator so your £80 would never have been spent at the butchers unless you were going to go against guidelines and purposely put other people's lives at risk just so you could cook some meat.

    I know not all councils are taking a strong stance on bbqs being lit but my local one and several others around the country are and there have been police in attendance and warning issued by the councils, same as with people having garden fires. Some see it as a waste of time and resources but others see it as needed enforcement because people are still not taking this lockdown seriously enough. 
  • lincroft1710
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    J.J.W. said:
    Thank you everybody.
    I have all the information I need now
    I cant lock a thread as answered, but will not be revisiting this until I have a more pertinent update.
    Regards
    JTJ
    Unless a thread is contentious or breaches forum rules, it should not be locked or deleted. The information contained therein may be of benefit to other forum users
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  • Fosterdog said:
    Even if the bbq hadn't arrived damage you should not be lighting a bbq of any sort right now. The smoke and fumes (even from gas ones) can exasperate lung and chest conditions of people who are self isolating with symptoms leading them to need hospital care and being out in a respirator so your £80 would never have been spent at the butchers unless you were going to go against guidelines and purposely put other people's lives at risk just so you could cook some meat.

    I know not all councils are taking a strong stance on bbqs being lit but my local one and several others around the country are and there have been police in attendance and warning issued by the councils, same as with people having garden fires. Some see it as a waste of time and resources but others see it as needed enforcement because people are still not taking this lockdown seriously enough. 
    Do you have a source for these guidelines stating people can't have a BBQ in their garden with members of their household?
    In the game of chess you can never let your adversary see your pieces
  • [Deleted User]
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    Do you have a source for these guidelines stating people can't have a BBQ in their garden with members of their household?
    I think it is  reluctantly accepted that barbecues will inevitably take place because they are difficult to police. 

    However,  they are certainly generally discouraged at the present moment  and definitely banned when they are a large social gathering including  people from outside the household. 

    There is also the issue of air pollution and, again while not illegal,   barbecues can be just as harmful to air quality as bonfires burning rubbish.

    It's basically just an issue of common courtesy to neighbours who could well be suffering the breathing difficulty associated with Covid19.... 
  • J.J.W.
    J.J.W. Posts: 12 Forumite
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    Fosterdog said:
    Even if the bbq hadn't arrived damage you should not be lighting a bbq of any sort right now. The smoke and fumes (even from gas ones) can exasperate lung and chest conditions of people who are self isolating with symptoms leading them to need hospital care and being out in a respirator so your £80 would never have been spent at the butchers unless you were going to go against guidelines and purposely put other people's lives at risk just so you could cook some meat.

    I know not all councils are taking a strong stance on bbqs being lit but my local one and several others around the country are and there have been police in attendance and warning issued by the councils, same as with people having garden fires. Some see it as a waste of time and resources but others see it as needed enforcement because people are still not taking this lockdown seriously enough. 
    Do you have a source for these guidelines stating people can't have a BBQ in their garden with members of their household?
    I'd be ken to see this.
    We do have a ban on bonfires. But BBQ's are allowed.
    Regards JTJ
  • J.J.W.
    J.J.W. Posts: 12 Forumite
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    After many hours of trying, the online live chat worked.
    The Range offered a reduction or a refund and collection.
    I'd love to have been able to consider the reduction, however the damage is of such that part is not usable.
    They could not offer a replacement, despite website still showing stock.
    Thanks for the info, should our efforts have continued to be fruitless.
    Regards JTJ
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