Rent Arrears

philip59

I have an HMO house with 5 tenants. 3 are paying rent and two at present can't. How long can they stay before i give them notice and also how will i know when they will receive money from the Government. I am not desperate, as they are good tenants, but, say come July, they could just leave, rather than paying arrears which is not fair to other tenants who are paying. Thanks Philip

Comms69

philip59 said:

I have an HMO house with 5 tenants. 3 are paying rent and two at present can't. How long can they stay before i give them notice and also how will i know when they will receive money from the Government. I am not desperate, as they are good tenants, but, say come July, they could just leave, rather than paying arrears which is not fair to other tenants who are paying. Thanks Philip

They’ll still be there in September I imagine. Is it separate contracts? If so there’s no unfair about it. 

Yes they can leave, you can pursue via court. 

Comms69

teddyjones said:

I’m on the other side, I am a tenant who hasn’t been able to pay rent due to reduced income.

how long since my first missed payment about a month ago until eviction proceedings can start? How long does it usually take once eviction process actually starts before we have to get out?

will landlords start negotiating a vastly lower rent arrangement due to lower incomes?

3 -4 months for rent arrears. 6-9 for no fault evictions. 

greatcrested

A S8 G8 Notice for rent arrears can be served when 2 months arears arise- ie immediately after the 2nd payment is missed.

The Notice must expire after 3 (or more)  months (coronavirus Act 2020). At that point the landlord can apply to court. How busy the courts will be at that time, who knows?

A S21 Notice can be served at (almost) any time. It must expire after 3 months (coronavirus Act 2020), or after the end of the fixed term if there is one.

TripleH

Why? What is your reasoning for this? Not disputing, just curious as to how you got to that conclusion?

Slithery

teddyjones said:

A lot of people are saying that the entire system is changed
there will I’ll be much lower rents after all this

I doubt it. I can see a lot of landlords selling up leading to higher demand for rental properties.

RelievedSheff

teddyjones said:

greatcrested said:

A S8 G8 Notice for rent arrears can be served when 2 months arears arise- ie immediately after the 2nd payment is missed.

The Notice must expire after 3 (or more)  months. At that point the landlord can apply to court. How busy the courts will be at that time, who knows?

A S21 Notice can be served at (almost) any time. It must expire after 3 mont, or after the end of the fixed term if there is one.

A lot of people are saying that the entire system is changed 

there will I’ll be much lower rents after all this

Who are these "lot of people" and what are they claiming has changed?

FreeBear

Slithery said: I doubt it. I can see a lot of landlords selling up leading to higher demand for rental properties.

Changes in tax & stamp duties has already put a squeeze on some landlord's profit. Whilst near zero interest rates on mortgages will go some way to help, I don't see great swathes of landlords selling up just yet. Once interest rates increase, perhaps..

In the meantime, I would anticipate rents to remain static or possibly increase in line with inflation.

Looking in to my crystal ball, I see a huge increase in evictions next year, and a large number of people struggling to find alternative accommodation because of a poor credit rating (compounded by rent arrears).

AdrianC

RelievedSheff said:

teddyjones said:

greatcrested said:

A S8 G8 Notice for rent arrears can be served when 2 months arears arise- ie immediately after the 2nd payment is missed.

The Notice must expire after 3 (or more)  months. At that point the landlord can apply to court. How busy the courts will be at that time, who knows?

A S21 Notice can be served at (almost) any time. It must expire after 3 mont, or after the end of the fixed term if there is one.

A lot of people are saying that the entire system is changed 

there will I’ll be much lower rents after all this

Who are these "lot of people" and what are they claiming has changed?

I can well believe there are a lot of people saying a lot of things have changed.

Some may even turn out to be right, once all this has passed into history.