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Replacing wooden fence with brickwall - pain in the *** neighbor

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  • Disjoint
    Disjoint Posts: 181 Forumite
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    Hasbeen said:
    This thread has to be a wind up, surely?
    Possible? But not sure. Op is talking about feet not metres, so not some school kid being bored?

    But Op has builder friend staying there and has to ask bricklayer about foundations?

    I would say no way, would I let someone build a possibly substantial heavy wall right up to the foundation edge.

    For a 2m wall, foundations are going to be messy. Why op is willing to lose a "substantial" part of the garden to the "nasty neighbour" I do not understand?

    Freebear's. Suggestion is the one I would also suggest if neighbour is as OP suggests.

    Sorry! My opinions only. Will wait and see what OP's intake is?
    If I knew everything about fences I wouldnt be here in the first place! I haven't thought much about the actual structure of the wall before posting I'll admit, just that I'll have to pour a concrete base and ask bricklayer acquaintance  for instructions on what to do next (am asking a favor so don't want to come to him with a shed load of questions, I'd rather look foolish to an anonymous forum audience). My main concern was how to deal with problem neighbor. By the sound of it I'll have to eat up some valuable garden space to put a 2m wall up. Just read 1450mm might be the highest I can go with single brick. Will consider that and add a light wooden panel at the top. 
    Thanks for the input all 
  • GDB2222
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     If you’re building single brick, you can’t safely go up to 2 metres, just by adding a wooden sail to the top of a 1.45m brick part. This is a very heavy and potentially dangerous structure. 

    Lots of garden walls are Unstable because they are rarely built with adequate foundations. That’s possibly acceptable if they are 1-2 feet high, but you are talking about a 5 ft wall with a couple of feet of fence on top. You need foundations a metre deep. That is an awful lot of digging. You’ll put Fred West to shame. You’ll need brick piers with reinforcements inside. 
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  • Mojisola
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    Hasbeen said:
    I would just reconsider just putting up a good quality 2m fence.
    I agree - I would put up concrete posts and the best quality fencing panels I could get.
    What will a brick wall achieve that a good strong fence can't?

  • GDB2222
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    I can understand that the OP might want a brick wall, because it’s in keeping with a Victorian terrace. However, I have sympathy with the neighbour, who has a right not to have a dangerous structure built on the boundary of his property. 

    Does the PWA apply here?
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  • Hasbeen
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    edited 19 April 2020 at 5:22PM
    Disjoint said:

    If I knew everything about fences I wouldnt be here in the first place! I haven't thought much about the actual structure of the wall before posting I'll admit, just that I'll have to pour a concrete base and ask bricklayer acquaintance  for instructions on what to do next (am asking a favor so don't want to come to him with a shed load of questions, I'd rather look foolish to an anonymous forum audience). My main concern was how to deal with problem neighbor. By the sound of it I'll have to eat up some valuable garden space to put a 2m wall up. Just read 1450mm might be the highest I can go with single brick. Will consider that and add a light wooden panel at the top. 
    Thanks for the input all 
    Op as has been suggested concrete posts with a good quality fence panels inserted.

    But if you want the solid look try here, but plenty of similar companies:  Linky










     
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  • Disjoint
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    Thank you all for taking the time to reply to my post! Ok - seems like a nice skinny wall resting on a small concrete base is not ideal.
    I thought that given I was going to have it built all around my garden and thus having the benefit of a 3 side structure  and that the surface was rather small I wouldn't have to worry too much about it - @GDB2222 is spot on in that my idea was to try and keep with the rest of the Victorian terrace (I had identified bricks to match). 
    I'll put this project to rest and focus on completing the house for now. I like to get everything done in one go when I do a build, as logging dirt through a brand new living room is not ideal so wanted the fence question sorted. I am going to stick to concrete posts with fence b/een.
    Again don't know if it's the Corona virus, but the level of replies and advice from all of you has been fantastic
  • GDB2222
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    On a purely personal note, I’ve never been very fond of tall fences. I find them claustrophobic. I mean for a small suburban garden. Obviously if you have a massive garden that’s another thing.

    Town gardens are all overlooked, anyway, so it’s not as though the high fence really provides privacy.


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