SAINSBURYS LIES about paying workers who live with EXTREMELY VULNERABLE PEOPLE 12 weeks paid leave

TheHandler

onwards&upwards said:
Do you need some advice on how to decontaminate when you get home? 

You can't decontaminate if you actually catch the virus at work. You have it, its done. And if you live in a small house with shared toilet/bathroom etc its very likely the extremely vulnerable person will then get it. OR the other colleague who IS getting paid could catch it from the other colleague still working and pass it on to the extremely vulnerable person too.

sharpe106

Moneyineptitude said:

sharpe106 said: Know mine is not 

There really is no need for "debate" about this.

If someone working for the NHS is also living with a vulnerable person, there is protection in place. It won't be widely "advertised".

They are not paying people to have 12 weeks of that live with vulnerable people. What is the protection?

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TheHandler said:

I think I need to clarify that this is about EXTREMELY vulnerable people, not just vulnerable. I'm talking about the people who have been sent an NHS letter who are at highest risk of death if they come into contact with the virus.

No, you really didn't need to clarify that at all.  

Have you approached your line manager about this? 

No "lies" have been told, there is localised discretion  just as you posted yourself...

TheHandler

Moneyineptitude said:

Finally, Sainsbury's do appear to be somewhat mean-minded in generally refusing to fund two staff members in the same household with a  vulnerable person, especially as the number of people affected in this way will be tiny.  However, the "timeline of events" from post #2 does reveal that Managers can exercise localised discretion with regard this ruling...

I would assume that too from the outside looking in but this isn't actually the case. That line managers update came AFTER colleagues in this situation had already been told they would not get the paid leave. The instruction was passed down from higher ups to the store management who can actually do nothing about the decision whatsoever.

I can find no one who will take responsibility for the decision and it certainly wasn't a line manager who made the call. Any manager (including the store manager) simply says they are following orders from higher up and there is no right to appeal.

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sharpe106 said:They are not paying people to have 12 weeks of 

No more "debate" on this side issue will be entered into. This thread is with regard to Sainsbury's policy, not the NHS. 

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TheHandler said:That line managers update came AFTER colleagues in this situation had already been told they would not get the paid leave. The instruction was passed down from higher ups to the store management who can actually do nothing about the decision whatsoever.

You may need to present this as a grievance to progress this. Are you in a Union? 

Undervalued

TheHandler said:

Moneyineptitude said:

Finally, Sainsbury's do appear to be somewhat mean-minded in generally refusing to fund two staff members in the same household with a  vulnerable person, especially as the number of people affected in this way will be tiny.  However, the "timeline of events" from post #2 does reveal that Managers can exercise localised discretion with regard this ruling...

I would assume that too from the outside looking in but this isn't actually the case. That line managers update came AFTER colleagues in this situation had already been told they would not get the paid leave. The instruction was passed down from higher ups to the store management who can actually do nothing about the decision whatsoever.

I can find no one who will take responsibility for the decision and it certainly wasn't a line manager who made the call. Any manager (including the store manager) simply says they are following orders from higher up and there is no right to appeal.

Which is correct because what you are hoping for would be a gesture of goodwill by Sainsbury's rather than a legal entitlement.

onwards&upwards

Moneyineptitude said:

sharpe106 said:They are not paying people to have 12 weeks of 

No more "debate" on this side issue will be entered into. 

Moneyineptitude hath spoken! 

sharpe106

Moneyineptitude said:

TheHandler said:That line managers update came AFTER colleagues in this situation had already been told they would not get the paid leave. The instruction was passed down from higher ups to the store management who can actually do nothing about the decision whatsoever.

You may need to present this as a grievance to progress this. Are you in a Union? 

Grievance for what? It was never legally binding. He said something and the policy has not been implemented exactly as he said, which is exactly the same as the job retention scheme, politicians had said things and what has been written down does not match exactly.